pissed off because my kid won't poop

miss phoenix
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my patience for this shit (pun intended) is wearing very very thin. DD (3 1/2) has been fully potty trained since november, and has been pooping and peeing like a champ on the toilet since then. there's been some accidents, but it's no big deal; it happens, and she knows that. but all of a sudden for the last couple weeks she WILL. NOT. POOP. she'll hold it on for days on end. i can tell when she needs to go, because she walks away and stands with her butt against the wall and tenses every muscle in her body and trembles and her face turns purple. we go through like 8 pairs of underwear a day because she gets these turtle heads that poke out (hey shadeshaman, perfect example of "touching the cloth"!!) and then she makes them go back in. i have to FORCE her to sit on the toilet during these moments when the poop starts coming out, and she cries and begs me not to make her. i sit with her, hold her hands, rub her hair, tell her she's safe, everyone poops, it's good for our bodies, it's okay to be scared but that nothing bad will happen. i hum with her, mouth wide open, in the hopes that it will help relax the muscles in her body. she crosses her legs and arches her back, ON the toilet, to stop the poop from coming out. after ten or twenty minutes of this i let her stop because it's not going to happen, we clean up her poopy butthole, and she goes to play...until the whole thing starts again twenty minutes later.

we go through this literally every half hour or so all day long, and so do the people who watch her while i'm working four days a week. she starts at a new school next week, what the hell are they going to do when this is going on all day?! her butthole is constantly covered in poop and she gets itchy and irritated from it. her belly hurts all the time. we can't even GO anywhere because it's such a gross battle to have to engage in when in a public place. when she finally does crap every few days it's either in her pants because her body just literally CANNOT hold it in anymore, or it's after thirty minutes of tearful bathroom drama. she feels better after she poops, even admits it. she says her bum feels better, her belly feels better.

she's NOT constipated. she drinks plenty of fluids, gets plenty of fiber, although after holding the poop in for three days i would imagine it's quite uncomfortable, even painful, at that point to let it out. i don't know why she's doing this after months of crapping like a pro, but i know that it's DRIVING. ME. NUTS. the constantly dirty underwear, the constantly dirty asshole, the hours a day spent in the bathroom trying not to scream "JUST FUCKING SHIT ALREADY!"

i know this isn't uncommon in kids her age, but i'm baffled. i don't know what to do anymore. i'm not proud of this-- quite ashamed, actually-- but the other night i got so annoyed around dinner time after two hours of wiping her butt and changing her underwear that i told her to go sit in her room and not to come out until she was ready to poop. she did, looking dejected, and when i went in ten minutes later to talk to her and tell her to come out for dinner she had crawled under the covers, popped her thumb in her mouth, and passed out cold. i undressed her while she slept, tucked her in and told her i loved her, said goodnight, and left the room feeling like the biggest asshole in the world.

making her feel bad about this is NOT the answer, i understand that. but what IS the answer?? is it time to call the doctor? i've tried rewards, a popsicle every time she drops a deuce on the potty. the automatic punishment by default is that we can't even go anywhere lately. it's beautiful out today, we were planning on going to the farm and getting ice cream and feeding the animals, but the poor kid is limping around the house with a stomach ache and a stinging butthole because she has to shit so bad, so it looks like we're kind of stuck here.

please please please give me some advice, some support, anything, before i lose my damn mind.

mommy2Layna
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been there, well sort of.

what did she say when you asked her why she doesnt want to go? My 2 year old did this but it was because she had a tear from having a large firm poop once and she was scared it was going to hurt. i looked for info about fecal hoarding but most of it just says to keep them hydrated and try to help them be comfortable. I can imagine how stressed you must be. Hopefully you will be able to just keep talking to her about it till she is comfortable again. you could try getting some body books maybe? ask her if it hurts when it comes out or if it scares her maybe? you could find some cream to put on her anus if it is hurting. Your best bet may be to ask the doctor though they may just suggest giving her a mild laxative so she kind of gets diarhea and has to go. this is what my doctor wanted to do. There is always the worry about getting dependant on a laxative to though. I don't have much advice more just sympathy as being a mother once stressed about my kids bowel movements. I really hope you guys can work it out. Look up fecal hoarding. that is what i found most helpful. it is a pretty common thing I guess.

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been there, too

it's frustrating, and frightening, and stressful, and scary. we went through/are still going through something similar. a dear mama friend who also went through something similar suggested i backtrack a bit and let her wear a pull-up while she pooped on the toilet. we tried it and it worked immediately. as long as she had a pull-up on, and lots of books to read, she would go poop on the toilet. she still held it, often for days, but i'd just put her in the tub and she'd relax enough to tell me she needed a pullup so she could poop. if i could get her to go once a day, i felt triumphant!

my dd is almost 5 and she JUST this week started to be able to go poop without a pull-up. i didn't say anything to her, let her lead the way, practiced patience while still wanting to pull my hair out about this one. but a few days ago she just made her way to the toilet, pooped, and then shouted for me to come in and wipe her butt.

i think we've finally crossed the bridge. it's been the most difficult thing i've encountered in parenting thus far. i think the hardest thing was tuning out everyone else's advice, and the worry voices inside my own head. but patience and knowing that she'll get there when she's ready saved me. i just kept reminding myself that she's scared and my job is to help her poop without being scared. even if that meant putting her back 'in diapers' so to speak.

good luck. you are not alone. give your girlie a big hug. she's gonna be okay.

rebeccaeee
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gets better!

I swear its like you had a camera trained on my son. What we have found is.....vaseline helps. Baths help. Frequent (but not extended) trips to the potty help. Reading a book on the can helps. We created a "pooperhero" persona which makes him feel empowered to poop. Drinking lots of water helps. Limiting the "binding" foods helps too. I finally decided he was riveted by the undivided attention he got while he was straining, so we started limiting the "help" we give him when he's trying to poop. That, too, seems to help. But really? It's a crapshoot. Pun intended. Rubbing the belly helps. Lots of little helps with no big help. Sometimes taking the potty seat away so their booty is less comfy (and less pushed together) on the potty helps. Good luck!

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hehe, i tried "pooperhero"

she thought it was funny but ultimately chickened out when it came time for poopergirl to put the pedal to the metal and drop a deuce. this weekend we've had 47,000 turtle heads and 51,000 pairs of dirty underwear. siiiiiiggghhhh.

i don't think attention has anything to do with it in our case because she puts her hand out and says "no! no! leave me alone!" when she needs to go. she does anything possible to escape being noticed but when your kid is standing against the wall convulsing while their face turns purple it's pretty hard not to notice, right?

on the three days a week that i'm home during the day we take some "poop time" after lunch to relax. even if she doesn't sit on the potty we sit in the bathroom and read and talk about the potty or whatever else she wants to talk about. frequently it's butts, as in "does a penguin have a butt?" "yeah, every single animal and person has a butt." "what about a chinchilla? does a chinchilla have a butt?"

i called the pedi on wednesday but never heard back, so apparently crapping problems aren't high priority for them. sure, when it's not your OWN kid suffering from anal hoarding it's all fun and games, right?!

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i never had this

and i'm stumped by it, and amazed by all the responses at how common it is. so, i have no advice, but i really hope this works out, because this would drive me batshit if it happened to my kid.

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batshit, indeed

now that i know there's a word for it i feel so much better: "anal hoarding"

wait, i just threw up in my mouth.

kids are so fucking disgusting sometimes. sorry if that sounds insensitive but jeez...hoarding shit in your butt? what the fuck kind of fuckery is that, anyway?!

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Madame Filth
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kids are fucking gross

it's reason #1 i will not teach in a school. i go in there and i see kids digging in their asses, then touching the backs of chairs and/or picking their noses.

anyway i hope little phoenix has shit by now.

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