Baby Z update

dynamom
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He's not so much a baby anymore, going to be 2 in a month. (How does that always happen so fast?) There's so much to say, it would really take me all day to type it out so I am going to try my best to be succinct.
Backstory for those that don't know/remember:
We became licensed foster parents in order to adopt.
Got baby E placed with us rather quickly. He was abandoned at the hospital, dad unknown, mom homeless & addicted, no other family to speak of (aside from his other siblings whom have all been adopted and I am in touch with)
Though there were no complications, it still took over 2 years to adopt him.

Right before his 2nd birthday, they called us about baby Z, also waiting at the hospital. Z is his biological brother. We said yes immediately. We thought it'd be the same.

A few weeks after he came home they told us we'd have to start visits with his parents.
This knocked me for a loop. I used to long for any tidbit of information about their mother to share with them, when I met her for the first time (I had to drive the baby to his visits) I almost hyperventilated. At the time she didn't know I had E and I wasn't comfortable with her meeting him yet.

At first they were still using and they looked terrible. Visits were not consistent. (Supposed to be every 2 weeks for 2 hours, supervised at an office) Then they went to rehab for many months and the baby was getting a ride to see them instead. When I finally saw them again I almost didn't recognize them...skin, hair, eyes so much healthier. Improvement you could see.

At that point E's adoption was finalized and I felt comfortable bringing him with me to drop-offs. He was shy at first but now he is very comfortable with seeing his birth mom and I always let them play for a bit when we drop off and pick up Z.

It was really really REALLY hard on me for awhile but the visits have turned out to be a blessing. I have a good rapport with them and it meant so much to me that we all hugged at the last visit before xmas. They trust me and defer to me on if it's okay to feed Z something or not. They see how happy and wonderful both boys are and how much they love each other and me. Z constantly calls me "mama, mama, mama" and if it hurts her she doesn't show it.

Now it is really hard for me to think of what comes next because in April there will be a trial in which most likely their rights to him will be terminated. I have let the courts know that I fully intend to stay in touch with them but it will never be like it is now with visits twice a month. They won't be getting rides to my county for visits anymore and once the rights are terminated, the state stays out of it. So if I want to get together I'm going to have to arrange it. I wish there were resources for us to utilize--I have some worries about doing this alone. My biggest fear being them relapsing, though of course I hope that does not happen. They are doing well, she's working on her GED, they are engaged...but jobs are very hard to find right now and they're still living with family.

The trial is mid-April (actually on E's 4th birthday). The judge has (and will probably take) 30 days to make a decision. Once their rights are terminated, they have 45 days to appeal. If the appellate court approves of it, that process could take another year. So this could be a long, long road ahead of me yet.

Or their rights could be terminated and they could decide not to appeal.

Or their rights could be not terminated and then I just don't know what I would do. It pretty much destroys me to think about that, so I just don't anymore.

We didn't know this is what we were getting into when we said yes to Z but of course even if we did, we would have said yes anyway.

And that is the BRIEF version of what's been going on....

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wow. that' a LOT to deal with

wow. that' a LOT to deal with day to day. but it seems like you are dealing with it really well. I wish all the best for you. keep us updated (i know you are a super busy mama) when you have the time : )

and thanks for sharing especially as I've been thinking about adoption lately. we are having a hard time ttc... still in the beginning stages of sorting all that out AND living in another country so adoption is not really an option for us right now, but, if we can't conceive on our own I eventually will want to adopt... or even if we do conceive on our own, i may still want to adopt. anyhow, its really nice to hear about different peoples adoption stories, so thank you for sharing.

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oh my...
lunarmama
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I'm not on HM much anymore

I'm not on HM much anymore but I'm so glad to see you here.

What a whirlwind!

Much love and getting though it vibes.

earthgarden
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I hope it goes well!

I hope this resolves ok. It would be best for Z I think.
Do his birth parents want him?

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dynamom
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Well to be honest, I don't

Well to be honest, I don't know.
On the record, they are doing the things they need to do ("working their plan") in an attempt to get him.
But sometimes I wonder if at this point they're just doing it to keep doing it and to keep getting rides to visits and get the other help the state is offering them...?? It's clear they love him, I don't mean that, I just wonder if they also think he's pretty okay where he is. Oh, it's such a slippery slope to try to even think about it all.

Like I said, the visits have turned out to be a blessing and I hope if it turns out he stays with me, his parents are comforted by the fact that they've known me and seen me interact with the boys, etc. I always give them so many drawings and photos and I think they realize I'd continue that. You know, when we see each other, we never talk about this stuff, just surface stuff about all the things the kids have been doing.

earthgarden
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What a dilemma

I am vibng hard for you and your family. I hope
he remains with you.

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love and vibes to you and the dynafamily.

i can't imagine how complicated it must be for you to really think about all the aspects of this situation, but i'm thinking of you and wishing you peace and strength until it's all over.

i have a feeling Z will end up with you guys for good, but i know that doesn't make it any less complicated for you. it's wonderful that you're considering trying to keep things open with Z's parents when/if the adoption is final, and i hope for their sake and for the sake of your wish to possibly keep them involved that their healing and recovery continues to be this promising.

btw, Z was just a couple months old when i started hanging around at HM and i can't believe he's almost two?! love and kisses to that adorable, happy dynafamily! <3

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i know it will go well cuz he

i know it will go well cuz he is your baby. ithink of u guys all the time and nooner mcnooonerson i always smile when i think of that Smile much love for you and the family mama j

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Damn Mama!

Not that I know much about the law there, but I'm going to guess with her history plus that you have adopted E, no judge will send him back to her. I know that is also sad. I remember you talking about how sad all this is for her & her life, but she has made SO many bad choices for so long involving so many children.
He is your boy, just like your other children & although it may take some time for the state to confirm that. Hang in there!

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sending you love and vibes

It sounds incredibly hard and complicated, emotionally-speaking (not to even mention the legal stuff). I hope hope hope it all works out, for all of you. Seems like someone's got to lose, in some way, and so it's hard to even try to figure out how it would "work out for all of you." But I guess I KNOW you (sorta anyway) and so I'll hope it works out for YOU and your family and that Baby Z's first/bio (not sure which term you prefer) mom can find peace with that. argh. Good luck, mama.

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dynamom
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another update.... The judge

another update....
The judge ordered a mediation which we went to last Friday.
There's a lot to say about all that went down but I feel a little funny posting it all online, lots of sensitive info...
But at this point the little man is legally free for adoption and though we are so happy and relieved it came at a bittersweet price.

When we first started visits with the boys' bio-parents, we never would have imagine how much we would come to care about them.
By doing the mediation, they had a say in their son's fate but when it comes down to it, they didn't have that much of a choice. It was either decide to do this or have someone do it for you at trial next month.

I never knew this is what it was going to be like.

We do plan on staying in touch with them but there is no support for us in this endeavor. We have so many worries about doing this right and concerns about them relapsing or disappearing, so many worries in general.

So---we should be able to finalize the adoption within the next 3-4 months hopefully and then we enter the unchartered territory of trying to maintain an open adoption after foster care relationship.

earthgarden
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That is great news!

I totally understand your ambivalence though. I am vibing that it all works out for your family. You have a huge heart to want to continue inclusion with the birth parents.

denessasma
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if anyone can do it it's your

if anyone can do it it's your family mama. there is no doubt in my mind go with your instincts and what you and dynadad think is best it's worked thus far. much love to and your awesome family, j

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