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“If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for a reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.”

"jump! jump! jump!"

"watch me! max!"

they bounce from one bed to the next. learning how to jump and bounce off one another in such a way that one doesn't go crying to mama.

"i wanna show you a trick." max says to bella. "close your eyes."

he runs to the next room, a trick up his shirtless sleeve, no doubt.

they are rough with one another, but i'm learning to stay out of it. i'm learning to not coddle when they get hurt, but to kiss, hug, and send them back on their way to play. i'm learning to let them fight. to let them argue. to even let them take a swing at each other before i step in. we don't allow hitting in our family, i say. they are learning. i am learning with them.

i used to hit my children; spank, slap, what-ever lighter word you'd like to apply to it. mostly max right after bella was born. no more than any other good mama, much less than what would have me feeling permanently guilty. it was a last resort move on my part, when reason, time out, and separation did not work. it was something i did because i didn't know how to handle my two year old and take care of [and protect] my newborn. now, i sit on my hands if max angers me. i tell him, "i am getting so angry right now." it has gotten easier as they have gotten older, as they understand language more.

i have heard moms say quite matter-of-factly, "oh, i believe in spanking." i feel nothing about this, other than wonder in how this will be carried on in the next generation. wonder in how this will affect the child's relationship with their parents. i don't really feel ill towards the momma, though. i understand the normalcy of it. in a lot of loving households, it is a normal last resort. and not only that, i think most of us parents wrestle with how to not hit our children when they are ornery and unruly. for many of us, it is a learn as you go process.

i have seen hitting go to the extreme, i mean, the extreme that is right before one may consider it abuse, but some may view it as such. my niece and nephews cower under the slightest disciplinary gaze from their mama and papa - whether they did wrong or not. i have seen them smacked on their little hand, spanked on their tiny butts, flicked on their small ears, and just as bad... i have seen them scared of their parents. i am witness to this kind of hard-ass parenting at every visit with them. and, i know those children are loved by their mama and papa. but at some point, how much love is felt becomes secondary and seems distorted in the eyes of how the children are treated.

i don't want my children to fear hal or me {or each other}. i want them to understand that a person can be serious with their requests, even when they don't resort to violence, bribes, and threats.

i fail at self-control, still, sometimes. just the other day, bella pushed our little dog off the couch. a push that could very well cause permanent damage to our sweet pug. she was nekked, my little girl, running around the house nutty and having fun. i slapped her little butt. not too hard, but hard enough to show her my anger at what she had done. immediately, i knew i had done something that wasn't necessary. immediately i began to think of other ways in which i could have handled the situation. then i began to act in those other ways. i didn't continue to punish her by shunning or with attitude. i coddled camus. she coddled camus. i apologized to my two year old for smacking her butt.

"you hurt my butt-butt." she says to me.

"i know sweetie, i didn't need to hit you. i am sorry."

"yeeeah." she cried. "its okay mommy. i love, looooooove you. i'm sooorrrrrriiieeeee, caaaamuuuuus, for pushing yoooooou." she felt bad enough for what she had done. when i explained how camus could get hurt being pushed off the couch (something i have explained before, but you know, repetition with kids), she cried and held camus. the wrong i committed against her little butt-butt, against her very sweet being, was immediately fixed. the guilt that i felt was erased the very next moment i chose to do what was right. see, i think guilt is useful in that it is a little nudge in a different direction. if that new direction is chosen, the guilt goes away. if the same path, the same behavior, the same negativity is continued, the guilt lingers and turns into all sorts of uglier acts.

i admire people who don't even think to hit their children. for they are better parents than i in this area. even going months without an account to speak of, then having one slap come out of me, feels like a mistake. i'm learning. my children are patient and forgiving. as i am with them.

max just built a gun out of blocks and named it, "super lazer 3,000." he explains, "it can do anything and change into anything!"

we have no toy guns in our house, but that is okay, they boy derives great pleasure in creating his own, which is okay too.

keeping in mind that max could watch t.v. all day if i let him, the time-suck thing gets turned off periodically. this is the other "i'm not the best momma" item on my list. i'm sure someone out there thinks that i let my children watch too much t.v. and sometimes, i do. i most certainly do. sometimes, it is the only respite i can offer myself. the only time i get to write. the only time i get to take a shower, or lay down and rest. i don't feel guilty about it. and i know i could choose differently.

but right now, as i write, they are helping themselves to an ice popsicle treat from the freezer, painting, entertaining themselves, running around, and making stuff. laughing. happy. interacting and engaging with one another. talking.

"you can eat a paintbrush if you want." max lets bella know, then his words follow with a song he likes to hum.

i've been mulling around in my head a post about lying, and how i handle it when max lies. being four years old brings on so much more awareness. he's gone from being a complete truth teller, to lying for fear of being punished, to: "i'm going to tell you the truth, mommy, i did it, not Bella. i am so sorry." and rarely repeating the offense.

life is odd. the adventure is not in what i am doing, but just the fact that i am living.

i've asked hal to take the kids to his parent's house today, so that i can be alone in the house. he's heading out the door now. the silence is so blissful. while they are gone, i'll write, rest, do a little cleaning {but not too much}, make a store run for more flour {for more bread making}, and make a tempeh cacciatore for my family's return. that's the plan anyway.

i hope that you, too, have a lovely weekend.

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glad you shared this

Smile

It is truly so hard to change from the way that we have been raised.

Slow our society will change.

When I was a child schools could paddle.

Now we have learned that it really doesn't work.

Thank you for writing this and sharing your experience.

Due with twins Dec 31. Hoping they don't come before Dec 11 when my Friend from Seattle arrives.
Eva (10), Zoe (9)

wow, this was nice

i like the part about guilt in reasonable amounts being a healthy cue to behave in a way that's more true.

i've never struggled with the self control not to hit my child. but she fears me sometimes, just the same. "that LOOK!"

yesterday she was telling her friend in a car ride how "evil" i am, because i bitched at her for making us late, for lack of planning on her part. the kid was SO afraid for her. "Filthy, don't say that! she's right here!" Filthy's like "what?" the kid goes on to say how she's not allowed to criticize her parents and if she does, it usually ends with her spending a whole day in her room crying.

dunno how relevant that is, i'm just making the point that whether you actually hit or not, most of us have the same issues with balancing respect vs fear, teaching vs controlling.

"the explosive powder he was hiding in his underwear failed to detonate"

come out

yeah, it took me a while to

yeah, it took me a while to figure out what the hell guilt was useful for, i mean, geeze, its such a pain. i've always associated the emotion only in terms of feeling it for a really long time. and then it occurred to me that it is also a quick feeling, too, that acts like a finger pointing in a different direction. so that's why i don't harbor it, i think.

yeah, emotional and mental intimidation is just as bully-like as a spanking, IMO. it is really hard to parent without your children ever fearing you, but it is my goal to use fear as little as possible! ideally, not at all. so far, so good. i'm not a doormat, but i'm also not scaring my kids all the time. KWIM? ah, the crazy complicated world of parenting!

your daughter's friend, it sounds like she isn't allowed to express disapproval in her house. that has got to be hard for her. i'm not sure why parents fear their children's opinion, or want to muffle it, when it differs from their own... maybe they have some serious power and control issues?

weird....

because i went apeshit on my kid yesterday and i thought of this post.

it makes me wonder.... i mean, our guilt is instilled in us when we're kids. i mean our compass that tells us what to feel bad for. and for me, it was overactive, i was led to believe i should feel bad about everything. and, so when i think about serving that purpose for my kid, teaching her what's wrong and intentionally making her feel bad for certain things in an effort to be that finger... i start to second guess that whole "my child will never fear me" mantra. because i've had that same mantra. but i gotta tell ya, while i have work to do in this area, i've seen kids with the most even handed and temperate parents still fear them. i wonder if it's just their natural response to being corrected, however you choose to do so. while i totally agree with you on parents who use fear of the parent in place of teaching actual right and wrong, i don't know how realistic my goal is to never have my kid fear me.

shit, you should see her, how little she fears me.

Mr Filth was raised in a home where he feared what his parents would do if they found out what he was doing, more than the actual consequences of what he was doing. i.e. at ten years old not allowed to cross a busy street, he was more afraid of daddy than getting hit by a truck. i'd rather my kid fear the truck, kwim? besides all the adults i've met who were raised to fear their parents are emotional cripples and don't really grasp real life consequences, imho. they tend to look for some authority in life to straighten shit out for them.

that other kid... don't know. i know the mom and it doesn't sound like her that she can't express herself with her mom. i don't know if she really can't express her feelings, i think maybe she's just taught a very traditional respect for authority/elders.

i went way off on this. but i have been thinking about it for a day now. now that my kid is ten, it's not as easy to lay everything out in a way that she understands. it takes time, which i don't always have. sometimes i wish i had that look that says "do it now or you're in big trouble" that other parents have with their kids. i gots shit to do.

"the explosive powder he was hiding in his underwear failed to detonate"

come out

I think that no matter how

I think that no matter how gentle we are with our kids, they will still see their parents as an authority figure (providing the parent is setting boundaries/rules and not a doormat) and that brings on at least a minimal amount of intimidation. It is not so much that I parent in a way that I am worried about whether my kids fear me or not, it is more that I don't want to parent with the **intention** of making my kids fear me. I have been thinking about our convo for a few days, now, too! Intention in my actions is more important than how they respond. So, depending on their personality, they may or may not fear me. Max, prolly very little if any but he still knows who's boss. Bella, she's totally fearless and still learning that mama is boss. She's just so easy and well behaved that she rarely requires attention for being naughty.

POB, this is exactly what I

POB, this is exactly what I need to read this morning. Thank you!
Love, love, love...

yay!!! you are very welcome.

yay!!! you are very welcome. Smile

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