Billion-dollar baby trade: The darker side of adoption

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I would like to know who here has been encouraged, coaxed or approached at any time or in any way to give their unborn or born child to adoption?

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Billion-dollar baby trade: The darker side of adoption
By BARBARA DAVIES

No one can begrudge Foreign Secretary David Milliband the joy of adopting a second child from America. But as a Mail investigation reveals, there's a much darker side to adopting.

At first glance they look like dating websites; hundreds of happy couples captured in soft-focus photographs, waxing lyrical about their love for each other.

But read on, and you quickly discover that these chocolate-box perfect husbands and wives have something far more serious on their minds.

In the U.S. 30,000 babies are adopted annually
They are searching for babies - and in the U.S. that means big business for the thousands of private adoption agencies, which can easily procure a newborn for those prepared to pay up to $40,000.

"The average cost of a new car is more than the cost of an adoption," trumpets one Californian agency.

"If adoption is your priority it can be designed to meet your budget and can indeed be affordable."

This week, Foreign Secretary David Miliband and his 46-year-old wife, Louise, announced they have adopted a second newborn baby boy from the U.S.

And while there is no suggestion of anything in any way untoward in the Milibands' case, their decision has thrown a spotlight on adoption procedures in the U.S. which differ vastly from the UK.

In fact, here, where contraception is free, terminations are easily accessible and single motherhood is widespread, it is virtually impossible to adopt a healthy newborn baby.

In America, however, which has a strong anti-abortion lobby and where the struggling welfare system makes raising a child almost impossible without a regular income, there is no shortage.

In the U.S., around 30,000 such babies are adopted annually. In the UK, the figure is around 150.

Of course, one can have nothing but admiration for families like the Milibands; unable to have children of their own, they will undoubtedly make loving parents and experience all the joys young children can bring.

Yet an investigation by the Mail this week reveals the disturbing truth about some parts of America's billion- dollar baby brokering industry.

While state-run adoption agencies do exist, in the majority of cases, healthy, white, newborn babies are sourced by "adoption attorneys", baby lawyers who - for a price - can make dreams come true for childless couples.

There is no suggestion that the Milibands used anything but the most reputable methods to adopt their latest son, Jacob - but as our investigation reveals there are some states where, thanks to local laws, impoverished and pregnant young women can be offered generous "expenses" throughout their pregnancies, which can include luxury accommodation, maternity clothes, food and cars in return for handing over their new babies.

These women are often drawn in via highly emotive advertising.

One website tells potential 'birthmothers' in its publicity blurb: "You deserve safe and comfortable housing."

Those who agree to have their babies adopted are housed in luxury apartments complete with swimming pools and gyms - all paid for, of course, by the adoptive parents.

Then there's a Baby From Heaven Adoption Service which promises: "You will be blessed for giving life to your child."

The website adds: "Giving up a baby for adoption is often described as an 'honourable sacrifice'.

"Although the adoption community sometimes overlooks your contribution and sacrifices, we want you to know that we understand your decision is an act of love. We believe adoption is a life-giving option."

Or the Alabama agency Adoptive families.com, which says: "The miracle of adoption is your choice."

Elsewhere, on the Facing an Unplanned Pregnancy? section of The Adoption Network Law Center website, it states: "Birthmothers are the generous women who have made a choice that will enrich a child's life."

This agency promises pregnant women "a beautiful adoption experience" - including luxury accommodation - adding: "Birthmothers deserve the pleasant dignity of our facility."

Prospective adoptive parents pushing themselves forward to be chosen from hundreds of others by birthmothers also often resort to stereotypical images of what the perfect parents should be.

Websites run by these adoption attorneys feature hundreds of white middle class couples, desperate to become parents.

Birth mothers write about how giving up their child to "worthier", not to mention wealthier parents has been their greatest achievement.

On one website, a young birthmother who has given up her baby writes: "My baby now has the opportunity to be something."

Of the parents taking her child, she adds: "They fulfil my dreams of what I some day hope to become."

In a typical profile of two would-be parents, a husband describes his childless wife Julie in something resembling a sales pitch: "Before becoming a stay-at-home mom, she taught both kindergarten and first grade in Catholic schools. Julie enjoys cooking, baking, exercise, tennis and scrapbooking."

In fact, a propensity to baking and helping out with school PTAs seems to feature highly on most profiles of would-be mothers.

On top of the expenses, prospective adoptive parents must pay thousands of dollars to the attorney to draw up the legal adoption papers.

Understandably, to protect their two children, the Milibands have asked for details of their arrangements not to be made public. But because Mrs Miliband - a violinist with the London Symphony Orchestra - was born in Britain and her family moved to the U.S. when she was a young child, she has dual citizenship.

U.S. adoption laws allow its citizens to adopt while living abroad. Non-American couples can adopt only if they remain living in the U.S.

Mr Miliband, 42, and his wife adopted their first child, Isaac, in December 2004, and when they wanted a sibling for the two-year-old, the Milibands returned to the States for their second child, a boy named Jacob.

Their delight at adopting Jacob will be the same as that experienced by Kym Porter, a 42-year-old advertising executive from Bakersville, Ohio, who watched her adopted son, Cameron, being born and cut the umbilical cord.

The baby's mother, an unmarried 27-year-old, told the midwife: "It's their baby. Hand it to them," and the wailing little boy was placed in Kym's arms.

Like the majority of couples who adopt infants, Kym and her 41-year-old husband David arranged to adopt the child before it was even born. They attended ante-natal appointments with the pregnant mother, paid her medical, legal and living expenses, and $12,000 later were proud parents.

"It was just like doing it myself without having to go through the whole pregnancy and labour," says Kym.

"It was our baby from the word go. It was a perfect scenario - an easy and pleasant experience."

It was also in her case, she admits - "very, very expensive".

And of course, many would-be parents spend thousands only to find that new mothers refuse to give up their babies.

When this happens, they have no legal redress and cannot get their money back.

Before meeting Cameron's mother, she and her husband were linked up with another birthmother, who, says Kym, was "very demanding".

"She'd phone and say that her car needed to be repaired or she needed money for rent. Towards the end of the pregnancy, I started to get a bad feeling about the whole thing and said to our attorney that I thought she wasn't going to hand the baby over. I was proved right."

Since then, Kym and David Porter have adopted another son, Jayden, who is now four years old - and for whom they paid "only" $10,000.

The ease with which such couples adopt in the U.S. is, of course, a million miles away from the experiences of childless couples in this country, whose dreams of adopting a baby of their own rarely ever come true.

But in the UK, the purpose of adoption is clearly defined as being to help children in need of a secure and stable home.

In the U.S., the emphasis has been turned on its head, with many private adoption brokers twisting the procedure into a lucrative way to satisfy the demands of desperate childless couples.

David Holmes, chief executive of the British Association for Adoption and Fostering, explains that the needs of the child should always be paramount.

"In the UK, the presumption is very much to keep families together," he says.

"We have seen a huge change in society since the Sixties and Seventies when women were relinquishing babies because of attitudes towards single and unmarried mothers.

"Society has moved on hugely. A quarter of children are born to single parent families.

"Although a number of babies still are relinquished, now the majority of those waiting for adoption are children who have had really difficult early lives, who have suffered abuse and neglect.

"There's a strong imperative in our law to support families and keep them together as much as possible and to make decisions for each individual child. The welfare of the child is at the centre of everything.

"Obviously, it's important where tiny babies do come into the care system that they are adopted quickly, but it is also important to be certain that it is what the birth mother wants. In the UK, there are safeguards to ensure this happens."

On the rare occasions that a baby is available for adoption in the UK, it cannot be adopted before it is six weeks old.

In the U.S., a baby is often handed straight into the arms of the adoptive parents after the birth and is legally signed over within hours.

Carol Jordan, a 30-year-old pharmacy technician from South Carolina, handed over her baby girl, Elizabeth, when she was just 48 hours old and has regretted it ever since.

She was 20 and virtually penniless when she fell pregnant in 1999.

"I looked under the 'crisis pregnancy' section of the Yellow Pages," she recalls.

"An ad offering free counselling and advice caught my eye. It was a Christian agency.

"The woman told me to come in straight away and when I got there, she talked about rates of poverty among single mothers and the 'win-win option' that was adoption.

"She said a well-off, Christian couple of my choosing would adopt my baby. I would have the chance to live my life unburdened by single motherhood, while my child would love me even more because he or she would have every opportunity to succeed in life.

"When I said that I didn't want my family to know, she said they could provide me with housing and protect me from the influence of my family."

Carol moved in with what was known as a "shepherding family".

As she puts it, "the perfect, made-for-TV family".

She adds: "I felt utterly alone. I was never seen as an expectant mother or a mother-to-be, I was just one of several 'birth mothers'."

"For these people, in order to deserve the gift of motherhood, you must either be a married, holier than-thou Christian or infertile.

"I got so tired of being told "You have nothing to offer this child" that I started to believe I didn't deserve to be a mother."

A month later, Carol was shown profiles of hopeful adopters. Each contained photographs and a "Dear Birthmother" open letter about why they should be chosen.

"Some of them went on about how much they earned and how big their house was," recalls Carol.

"They also tugged at your heartstrings with their stories of infertility."

She eventually chose a couple called Mary and Ethan.

"They seemed so humble and more worthy of a child than I was," she says.

"They attended the last scan with me and they asked if they could be in the delivery room to witness the birth. They were such nice people. I thought I was sure."

After the birth, however, Carol felt completely different.

"They laid my baby on my tummy and the husband cut the cord.

"It was a girl and she was beautiful. I'd never felt so much love in my life. The couple stayed with me, but after they'd gone and we were alone, I held her and fed her and fell in love with her.

"The next day came and I thought I couldn't go through with signing the adoption papers. I curled up with her and I didn't want to let her go."

When Carol told the adoption agency she'd had second thoughts, they telephoned the prospective adoptive parents and asked them to come to the hospital.

She recalls: "They sat beside my bed sobbing and gazing at my daughter. The counsellor from the agency was saying how hard it was to raise a child on your own and that the best thing I could do for her was to go through with the adoption.

"She said I would be homeless and social services would take the baby anyway. The pressure was unbearable."

In the end Carol signed, and handed over her daughter.

"The last sight I had of Elizabeth was her crying and the couple rushing her away from me."

One day, she hopes her daughter will track her down so she can explain how much she still loves her.

Carol adds: "I am not against adoption, but the way it is done here is wrong.

"British couples might look over here at our system and think how easy it all is, but there is an entire industry geared towards getting babies off young mothers.

"They advertise as pregnancy crisis centres, but basically they just want to sell your baby. It's sick and it's wrong."

Next week is National Adoption Week in the UK and when compared with the U.S. system, our oft criticised adoption system is suddenly thrown into a more favourable light.

It also serves as a timely reminder of the 60,000 older children still languishing in care in England alone.

Last year, just 3,000 vulnerable youngsters were adopted in England - with an average age of four years two months.

Our system may not be perfect and there are those who will continue to complain that adoption in the UK is far too laborious a process.

But most will take heart from the fact that we are still far, far away from the point where we allow our babies to be effectively put up for sale.

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this is freaking me out

i had to stop reading three times in this article to take some breaths. i have nothing to contribute, except that i went to one of these "crisis pregnancy centers" and was pressured to give child up, but i ended up aborting, so that one day there was my only dealing with them.

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yep, sounds about right

I had a hard time reading this. pregnant with N I went to mental help place that is run by the catholic church, literally got sick from the pressure. They coaxed me to set another appt for a week later but I ditched it. It was a weird situation, a tiny dark, musty office. A lecture about the more mature, more stable couples trying and trying to get pregnant but can't and then here I am 18, in high school and getting knocked up. She just chuckled that it didn't seem fair.

While unpacking I went through a box last night that had all the pamphlets and adoption reading material they gave me, it gave me a slight panic attack... for some reason I haven't tossed them. I really should.

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pure insanity

you know, don't throw those pamphlets out. put them in the baby book, along with your child's graduation stuff.....

this whole thing is really making me sick right now. i'm wishing that someone would put PSA's on tv telling birth mothers that the "agencies" make so much money off of their baby, and operate under virtually no regilations, which means they can lie or say anything to get that baby.

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Good idea.

PSA's from the point of view of the expectant or new mother, who are not being supported by society to keep their children and are actually being pushed or coerced toward adopting out their child(ren), are excellent ideas.

I believe "When I Was Garbage" by Allison Crews ties in nicely with this. http://www.girl-mom.com/node/34

Obviously, an abused or neglected child from foster care might have a generally positive experience with adoption (might not, depends on who adopts them), setting aside the common adoptee issues they will experience. In this Billion Dollar Baby Trade article, they're discussing domestic infant adoption in the US as contrasted to the policies of UK.

There's a bit of awkward politeness or schizophrenic attitude regarding the Milibands' adoptions in this article, but on the whole, it's on target.

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well i am curious now

well obviously, this is why madonna bought her baby from one of the orphanages they talk about here. which is what made me think of it. when they say UK, what do they mean? is it across the board, including northern ireland, etc?

as to the PSA's, i was thinking it would be like a "did you know" and have a list of things you tell women "if you are pregnant and and are considering adoption, chances are you are also facing immense pressure from adoption agencies. you should know that.... " and go on to quickly run through the programs available to mothers, etc, to drive home the point that they aren't going to lose the baby anyway if they don't give him/her up. that's teh theme i detected here. the birth mothers were convinced that they were unfit and it was a matter of time anyway till the child was taken from them.

oh, and if they only knew how much money was being made off of their baby. maybe then they would look twice at these people who seem so nice right now, before they sign.

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I wholeheartedly believe that we need education regarding

adoption and what it will actually mean to the mother and the child for the rest of their lives. I also believe we as a nation need to make huge strides in regard to sex education, but that's a different topic.

PSAs bringing to light the money that is made by adoption agencies and adoption lawyers off the transfer of each child, what programs and resources are available to expectant and new mothers, and highlighting the immense pressure that can be brought upon women to separate them from their baby are a great idea.

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Whether expectant mothers are young, poor, unsure, unprepared or scared for some reason (money? lack of support? lack of resources? societal or religious pressure due to being pregnant out of wedlock?) regarding their pregnancy, they should have access to real information on abortion and on the lifelong effects of adoption on the mother and on the child/adult (the adoptee). Women who would not personally choose an abortion especially need this information!

When a woman is pregnant, she has a choice. Have the child or have an abortion.

An abortion ends the pregnancy, obviously.

Having the child can result in a miscarriage, a stillbirth, or a live birth.

After a live birth, a woman then has a choice to keep and raise her child, or give her child to someone else to raise.

Adoption is not the automatic opposite of abortion. Choosing to have one's baby is the opposite of abortion.

Adoption is the opposite of keeping one's child.

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great ideas

but i seriously doubt any tv network would air it, given how much money and control these interwoven groups have. think of the commercials we've already seen. personally, i have only seen the ones promoting adoption, via these "crisis pregnancy centers." i've seen no others.

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more and more disturbing

"It was just like doing it myself without having to go through the whole pregnancy and labour," says Kym.

"It was our baby from the word go. It was a perfect scenario - an easy and pleasant experience."

i'm at least a bit heartened to hear that the situation isn't quite so corrupt in the u.k., though i know a lot of transnational adoptees end up there, too.

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Yes, Australia, too is well ahead of the US

in their treatment of adoption, adoptees & mothers.

The quote you pulled sounds disturbing, but we've all heard of how broken-hearted infertile potential adoptive parents become when the mother changes her mind after giving birth and decides against her baby to them. They are so desperate for a baby, any baby. It's devastating, I'm sure, and I'm sorry when their dreams are dashed, but their desire for an infant certainly should not override a woman's right to keep her own child.

My opinion is that Kym sounds a bit delusional, that it was "just like" doing it herself without having to go through pregnancy and birth and "it" was her baby from the word go.

Glad to hear you've been reading up on transnational adoption. Quite the subject!

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Years ago I called one of those crisis centers

I was in high school and thought I was pregnant, turns out it was just a really irregular period. It was the creepiest experience, though. I remember talking to someone with an unnaturally high-pitched voice who kept insinuating that if I had an abortion, I'd probably kill myself because "suicide is the #1 side-effect from having an abortion"! I was so upset I just hung up on him/her/it in mid-sentence but still...reading this makes me even angrier about those so-called crisis centers. Ugh.

I like the idea of making people wait 6 weeks to be able to adopt a child, I really do. Seems like it might limit the "ripped from the mother's arms" scenario that sounds so, so traumatizing.

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"I would like to know who

"I would like to know who here has been encouraged, coaxed or approached at any time or in any way to give their unborn or born child to adoption?"

Me. With two different pregnancies.

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I'll toss my name in as another one offered a large sum of money

for my not-yet-born baby.

Some racist and classist things were implied about the market value of that baby due to my education level, skin, hair and eye color.

This happened to me at a very vulnerable time in my life.

I turned the offer down flatly.

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Me.

With my first pregnancy.

Everyone and I mean *everyone* couldn't fathom why I'd go through an agency and didn't take any money for it.

And then... even later, someone in my family actually had the audacity to ask me if my son's parents had contacted me to give me money for the child they'd adopted over 20 years ago!!!

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oops

posted article about international adoption but the above is relating to the business of adoption in the U.S. Here's the article anyhow- it's very good- I just wanted to acknowledge that it's sort of off topic:
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/11/did-i-steal-my-daughter....

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Yes, I've read this article and hope than when the HipMamas who

are interested have some time, they'll read it, too.

The author is beginning to get it.

It is easy to go through that article and highlight all the "We WANTeds" and other indications of entitlement, privilege, and purposeful ignorance, some of which Elizabeth herself pointed out. Like I said, she's starting to wake up. She's not fully there yet, but I give her credit for trying, for asking these questions, and for overcoming fear to contact the mother.

Perhaps by the time "Flora" is older, Elizabeth will be even more aware about the causes and effects of transnational and transracial adoption.

The damage is already done to the two Beatriz's and THAT should be written about, heavily, but this article was from the POV of a fertile woman who wanted a girl and was willing to adopt to get one. Not the first or last American woman who has done this.

I got very interested at the point in the article when the husband said, "We have to give her back." I thought, WOW, this article is really going somewhere!

I see this article as a step in the right direction, growing awareness from an adoptive mother. We need women and men to become aware of what they are participating in, how it affects the children (who become adults) and other women, and to ask the questions the author asks plus even more.

I have high hope that the author of this Mother Jones article will become better educated about adoptees and adoption as time goes on and become a voice against the industry. She mentioned "one day I hoped to write about women in Guatemala and other countries who place their children for adoption. I told her that we don't hear much about these mothers." No kidding!

I didn't read this as a happy story, but a movement in the right direction.

Finally, if a busy HipMama can find some more time after reading the article, the comments after it are worth reading, too.

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I didn't see it as a happy

I didn't see it as a happy story either. Actually, quite the opposite- it's pretty heartbreaking. I think the author is well on her way to "getting it" but these must be hard truths to learn-- especially when all of these realizations are coming after the fact- after "Flora" has bonded with her family, etc. I was cheering on the inside when she wrote about her husband saying they should give the baby back. But when I thought about it further, at this point it's too late in the game for it to the author to do some rationalizing to make peace with her reality and to live with herself. Though I agree that I would like to see her look at the system even more critically. I will definitely go back and read the comments because I'm interested in peoples' perspectives on this.

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where's the rest of the article?

i got toe the little asterisks and thought that was the end, albeit an odd one, but then when i began reading the comments below, it appeared that there was more text to the article. i can't find it, though - help, please?

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it's three pages

under the chart of celebrity adopters, you can click on "next page"

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doh!

how could i miss something as clear as "next page". i'm a dork. thank you for helping me out.

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what gets me about this article

and sobriquet mentioned the entitlement already, but this woman writes about being privileged to get this child because she could afford it. she suggests that it's fucked up that there is this relationship between her cash flow and her fitness as a parent, but it never seems to occur to her to just accept not getting what she wants. not just with the getting a girl when you have two boys, or just getting a child because you want one, but there were a series of other wants in there and at no point did she stop and ask herself why it is that she should get these things. other than wanting them, i mean. she seems to stop and ask later, after the child is adopted, but kinda too little too late.

i totally give her props for being as honest as she is, which is probably way more honest than a lot of people would be. but the whole thing is kind of turning my stomach. she did all this research. might she not do that research before purchasing some other woman's baby?

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I'm glad you noticed that! You're asking good questions.

"Might she not do that research before purchasing some other woman's baby?"

Ideally yes, but this would be exceedingly unusual.

Prospective adoptive parents very rarely delve deeply into the subject of adoption from the point of view of the adoptee or the first mother/first family before starting on the path toward it. They've been fed a bunch of myths and don't know what they're getting into. They are but one part of the problem.

Sometimes I feel they are quite culpable, sometimes I feel they've been had. Depends on the individual situation.

Many will later admit that they did not realize what they were getting into and that, especially in cases where they are infertile, they would not have listened to the voices of those suggesting adoption might not be the tidy little happy solution they wanted it to be.

I think there's also an unspoken pressure on adoptive parents not to discuss their negative feelings about the adoption or any negative behavior of their adoptees which might be related to having been separated from their first mother.

I had a similar reaction to the article, Etta, in that I am glad she's doing the research and asking some tough questions which might not place her in a favorable light, but in the end, it seems too little, too late.

The optimist in me, though, is happy that she got her story published which has caused dialogue and she has plans to write further on the subject with a focus on the experience of the Guatemalan mothers. It's valuable to hear the perspective of an adoptive mother who is questioning her place in international adoption.

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something that struck me

was that if she wanted to be certain of a daughter, and she had several thousand dollars available to put to that end, why didn't she just do in vitro fertilzation and only introduce XX zygotes/embryos?

and i totally hear you on the entitlement aspect. even though i know i have my own issues with it in a variety of ways, i was just a bit taken aback how completely absent from her writing the child was in that sense. there was no, "child needs home/i want child", but only "i want xyz child 'cuz i want". perhaps more than anything, this illustrated to me the extreme skewing of the whole issue away from finding homes for children in need of them to finding children for parents able to pay for them. gack.

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Again, the author of this article is biased

Do you REALLY think that this family chose to adopt simply because they wanted a girl - ESPECIALLY if making one themselves would be cheaper/easier.

I think they probably thought what a lot of people think. That socially, responisbly, having more than two children is taking more that your share of resources, particularly when there are children out there that need homes. I think this family thought they were adopting a child who needed a home, not one who potentially had been stolen. I think they thought they were doing the right thing. If they had not adopted their daughter do you really think the agency would have found the mother and given her back? She would have been adopted by someone else with fewer moral qualms and less desire to connect with the birth mother. Perhaps this girl's best chance at justice is with her adoptive family. There are lots of considerations here.

I think, while thees articles present some truth, they have to be read with the same skepticism you'd read anything out of FOX News - you can get some fact, but tread lightly on the opinion. There's a lot of bias here.

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the adoptive mother wrote the article herself

so, when i cite her reasons for adopting, i am citing the reasons she chose to give in the article she wrote about her choice to adopt. this is not international adoption through a fox news filter. this is one woman's first person account of her experience adopting internationally. if she is indicted, she is indicted by her own words.

yes, these issues are insanely complex. no, there is no easy answer. and that is just as true for oversimplified pro-adoptions advocacy as it is for indictments of corrumpt transnational baby selling. imho, one does not answer critiques of a system by saying, essentially, yes, we all know it is, so let's just focus on the band aid instead of the gaping wound. i can't speak for anyone else here, but i am ever so tired of hearing critiques of adoption answered by histrionic pleas about the only alternative being just leaving kids to rot in the system. this is especially troubling given that the bulk of the transnational adoption corruption under discussion is about coercing poor women to sell their babies, so that those monied, "desperate to parent" types won't have to be bothered with doing jacksquat for those minors unfortunate enough to have "spent an hour in institutional care" - that last being a direct quote from the adoptive mother who wrote this article. she was not rescuing anyone from an orphanage. she wanted an infant untainted by institutions. she said so herself. she is an individual example of the folks who provide the market for the corrupt system under critique here. let me reiterate - these folks are NOT rescuing kids from orphanages or institutions - if they were, they'd be doing it right here at home, no visa required.

further, could you be more myopically classist regarding the proposition that it would be worthwhile to make it economically viable for poor women to keep their children. if there are street beggars in india maiming their children to increase their chances of getting enough from begging to survive, do you think they'd have to be doing either if the first world wasn't sucking up a wildly disproportionate amount of resources? we all have blood and dirt on our hands, not just the parents of those begging children. pretending otherwise is part of what dehumanizes the women who birth the babies that get bought by western parents in the first fuckin' place.

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What you are saying is

What you are saying is totally valid but I would like to point out that the mom here wrote this article in large part because she is realizing how f**ked up the whole thing is and I think that while somewhat defensive and rationalizing, she accepts at least some modicum of responsibility for what happened and considers the possibility that she stole her daughter (rather than just receiving a child that had been stolen by the system). I don't think she goes all the way. There is definitely a note of self congratulations towards the end with the meeting with Beatrice that was a little much, but it feels like this is at least a step in the right direction as most adoptive parents I've encountered- including my own mother- refuse to consider any negativity surrounding or resulting from their adoption. If it is not shiny and positive they don't want to hear it and become EXTREMELY upset if you suggest that anything untoward has gone down- mainly because they know it's true and don't want to face it. I don't think the mom in this case is a saint- far from it... but I think that as an adoptive mom to an international child she's in a better position than anyone else to reach prospective adoptive parents to Guatemalan children as well as children from other developing countries than someone who has not gone through that adoption process. KWIM?

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i agree with everything you wrote here

did what i wrote above give the impression that i wouldn't? my apologies, if so.

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You didn't necessarily give

You didn't necessarily give me the impression that you would disagree, but based on what you had written I wasn't sure. It seems that some are trying to say that the author of this article is trying to pat herself on the back and I don't think that's true at all. She falls short of exploring all the negative aspects and missteps she and her husband made in the process but I don't think she's trying to rationalize or glorify her actions either.

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A couple of years ago when

A couple of years ago when BD's niece was 2 years old, his sister was going through a REALLY rough time. She had no job, no money, trouble getting social services, and all anyone ever did was berate her for what a terrible job she was doing with her daughter (which was totally untrue- she just wasn't doing things the way certain people- namely her overly judgmental and control-freak mom- would have done them). At some point when she was trying to get welfare, etc. someone suggested she look into giving up her daughter and put her in contact with an adoption agency. This woman from the agency was giving the hard sell to BD's sis- telling her that adoption was the greatest gift of love that she could ever give her child and that if she really loved her daughter she should give her to a family that will be able to provide everything she might need. But the child was already 2 years old!!! Talk about traumatizing a kid! The greatest gift of love would be to take her out of the only home she's ever known and away from the mother she's been with every day for her whole life? We had to really work hard to counteract what this woman was saying. BD and I even offered to take the baby until his sis could get on her feet. Eventually she came to her senses and decided not to go that route, but I'm sure there are many women who are pressured in this way- even with older babies and toddlers. Sickening.

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Me too.

Way back in the dark ages, when I was a 21 year old party girl with funny hair and funny clothes and I liked to abuse substances and I had three jobs and I was saving up to go to school... I got pregnant and my upper-middle class family was just up in arms and they had family meetings and I was informed that I didn't need to worry, the family would take care of my baby, their lawyers would take care of all the details, unless of course I wanted to adopt him outside the family. I don't know if I actually screamed Fuck off at them or if I was only screaming it in my head. Later when I was showing, I guess I looked younger than my age...

I was in the Fred Meyer buying wic milk and this high strung looking 40-something lady with bad makeup and an expensive looking coat kept staring at me and eventually I was pretty sure she was following me and the FAX. At some point he went to go find something and she came up to me and asked if he was my baby's father, is it a healthy pregnancy, ooooh! a BOY! But aren't you both too young? She offered me $40,000 right there in the Fred Meyer, she said she couldn't have a baby and really wanted to adopt. She gave me her card and I was so shocked I took it. I told her, I'm 21 years old. She said I didn't look it. I walked away and threw away her card. I should have gone to the police. Everybody acted like I was too young (which I was), like I didn't have money in the bank (I did), like I didn't know what I was doing and that choosing to keep my son was an abusive action towards him. If I didn't want to keep him I would not have gestated him.

Earlier on in the pregnancy, I needed a pregnancy confirmation to come from a doctor so I could get insurance. I didn't want to pay for my doctors office, so a friend told me to call this number for a crisis pregnancy center so I could get a free confirmation. A girl younger than me gave me an EPT stick test. I did that at home! Before we checked the results of the test she brought me pictures of fetuses (feti?) and told me that this was what my baby looked like right now. I gave her one of my patented bitch-stares and informed her that for one thing she doesn't even know if I'm pregnant or not, and for another if I was, I was only about four weeks along which means that my *zygote* is little more than a mass of cells right now, not this seven months fetus she was showing me. I wonder about her sometimes. It can't be easy working in the crisis pregnancy center down the street from the welfare office and the jail in one of the more progressive cities in america. I wanted to shake her. I wonder if she is still affiliated with the organization, or if she grew up a little and started thinking with her brain instead of letting others think for her.

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When I was pregnant, since I

When I was pregnant, since I look so young I was approached by someone to sell the baby. They asked if it would be white and I was told I could make 1/2 a million-a million for it if I played my cards right. I was disgusted and horrified. Worst of all, this was my mom's landlord so I couldn't report him without compromising my mom's house. I'm almost 100% sure he's not involved with that stuff but I'm sure he knows people.
For me, adoption was never on the table because i just couldn't see myself carrying a baby that isn't mine for 9 months then giving her to someone else to enjoy. it's great if you can do that, but I just can't. Ugh... those crisis centers make me sick. Being young doesn't make you incapable. It -might- mean you have to get focused and work hard but honestly, that really has just improved our lives. It's not always the case, but don't assume those who had an unplanned pregnancy are going to want to give it up for the "good of the child"
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