OCD ToddlerSo I know that order is very important to toddlers, and I know that when you're just figuring out how the world works consistancy becomes very important - but every now and then I wonder what's going on. DS will be 3 in four months. The other day he was playing by himself while DH and I finished dinner. When we were done and came to give him a bath he had lined up a row of books and magazines on the floor (in order of size), cars and trucks on the ottomon (by color) and shoes on the rug (toe to heel). It was just a little "Blare Witchy" ya know? And then, a different evening I put him down a little late to bed and he wouldn't go to sleep. After ten minutes of yelling, I went to his room to find him hysterically demand that I put his sippy cup first on the burro, then hand it to him lying down in such a way so that he could, and I'm quoting him here "see the lable." I didn't even know he knew what a lable was. Now this isn't every day, and in every other way he seems fine. He talks a lot. He sings, he hugs, he knows all his letters and counts, and tries to jump (very cute), but all the order lately - it just sometimes feels weird. Thoughts?
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mine does that sorta stuff ALL -THE- TIME
especially lining stuff up in rows by color or size ( sometimes his cars he lines up by make & model to his own squirrelly plan). Usually just when I start getting freaked out by it, the phase works it way out & a new one emerges to take it's place. Don't worry. It is perfectly normal for a three year old to fixate on things being "just so". Heck, it's normal for everyone. just look in your cupboards... are the glasses lined up just so & doesn't it just drive ya nuts when someone puts things away in the wrong place? Everything you describe sounds right as rain in my book, but if you have concerns that linger...I always say that a mamas gut reaction is worth asking about at the next pediatrician visit, or at least a good search at ask Dr Sears.
ho, ho--my four year was really like that!
He has actually improved a bit, but will do that crying and yelling thing if we didn't do stuff exactly right and in the right order. I thought it was pretty funny actually.
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Mummy's alright, Daddy's alright, they just seem a little weird...
I was diagnosed OCD
as a kid, but it didn't start until I was at least 6 - that's my earliest memories of it anyway. I'm pretty mellow now, except when I get really stressed I still have a few rituals that I need to stick to.
Anyway, I checked with our ped. when my chicklet started doing some pretty funny OCD stuff - not quite as complex as your three year old of course, but enough to get me worried. Our ped. assured me that its just my girl's job to put everything together in a logical way, and not to worry. She also said OCD (the real disorder), is generally stress-induced, and is usually triggered by a major stressful family/life event - which was certainly true for me.
Thanks for the reassurrance
I don't think he *really* has OCD, but I had that little nagging voice in the back of my head. Its good to hear everybody's stories. Toddlers are a hoot.
Max is the same way.
Max is the same way. Everything has to be a particular way. I think its very normal.
A bird does not sing because it has an answer. It sings because it has a song. - Chinese Proverb
I think that all toddlers go
I think that all toddlers go through things where they kind of obsess over things. It might be the way something is arranged, it might be obsessing over a toy or over a certain kind of toy. My boy, much to my chagrin, is constantly on about blood/monsters/mummies/scary stuff. Something he's sort of been into for a couple of years now, though I do try my hardest to steer his imagination to gentler, yet still "cool", images. I prefer robots/aliens (cute ones)/space ships/little white ghosts over scary monsters, so I try to compromise with this. If it's something that doesn't seem to be disrupting the harmony in your home, let it play out, otherwise perhaps try some of your own compromises and see if it will satisfy him.
I don't have to worry about mummies
yet. We can't deal with actually scary things because nearly everything is "scary" right now.
Big trucks - "scary," dinasour toys "scary," even the dishwasher the other day "scary." A sand lion on Sesame Street -"scary." I try to remember that he's just figuring out emotions in a big way right now, but oh man, when a trip to the grocery store is "too scary" it sometimes feels like too much.
I don't know how we are going to manage Halloween.
My DS did this stuff all the time
at almost exactly the same age as yours is doing it now. Lining up shoes toe to heal, books, trucks in order of size, etc. Also had very specific ideas about color order. And the most insane requirements for, say, which direction I should hold the towel when he got out of the tub. I think it's totally normal.
I have a cousin whose son is OCD and my understanding is that it is very rare for a child to exhibit symptoms at the toddler age. When they do they are generally very, very severe symptoms that interfere with normal functioning. That's my understanding anyway, I am not an expert by any stretch.
Sounds like your little guy is just a regular crazy toddler like mine.
toddler OCD
my impression is that most toddlers go through a stage like this - could be trying to assert some control over their surroundings, could be a fascination with the new (to them) concept of order, showing off their brilliance, etc. All taken together it comes across as OCD. Sebastian lines things up obsessively - he gets upset if there are an uneven number of blocks at his disposal when he is lining them up into squares and rectangles. And bedtime, especially, has to flow exactly right - pink cup for milk, green for water, kiss, goodnight, first one light off, then another, he must have his clown pillow and big bunny and baby bunny... until recently the covers could not touch an inch of him and he absolutely *had* to be wearing pants.
Tomorrow it will likely be something different. I praise him for his efforts to put things in order - and then I drop it. I keep an eye on the things that make me go "hmm" but try not to worry too much. Becoming a person is hard-ass work and I expect him to go through some weird stages.
Keep an eye on it - but don't worry. If it turns out your little guy is OCD, you will have time to help him work through that and manage it - by not making a big deal about things like this he will not feel like he needs to hide or feel shame and (IMHO) will be more likely to accept whatever help he needs down the road.
a tangled path

*had to wear pants*
giggling here. So true. Kids are so weird, but I sure love it.
Are you sure
you're not parenting my son? It sounds like the exact same story. We have to have the same blanket every night. God forbid it needs washing.
I don't have much experience
but reportedly when I was a toddler I would line everything up, even Halloween candy to organize it before I would even consider eating it. And I would separate my mixed vegetables into groups before I ate them; I would eat each of the vegetables, it wasn't that I was being selective or picky, I just liked them ordered first. I think some kids just tend to be more anal-retentive than others, ya know?
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My son used to do that!
When my son was two or three-ish he would line up all of his hot wheels cars biggest to smallest. Then he'd line them up by color and one day he asked "where's boo car?" He noticed that one of the blue ones was missing!
I thought he did this just to take inventory of his things?
He also did this with dinosaurs at the age of four and books at the age of five. He's nine now and as messy as can be, BUT he always knows when something is out of place!
As for the cup label thing...maybe he just liked the label? Or could he be exercising his will?
Either way, sounds like a bright little guy!
Wow, what a smart little
Wow, what a smart little guy- organizing things by size and color at 3?? It's hard to say when he's so young if this could be OCD. I'd keep an eye on it. OCD is a progressive illness so if this is what that is then it will get worse. The demands for order will also become consistent- that is the nature of OCD. He won't sometimes organize his blocks in a certain way- he will ALWAYS systematically do it the same way and become very upset if he's not able to do so. For now it sounds like he's ok... I'm still just impressed by how bright he is!