Are we being stalked?As everyone knows, FIL is the douchebag supreme. But he upped the ante conciderably. We had been plotting our escape into Family Student Housing when I found some semen on Sophie's leg after FIL had been watching her. When he gave her to me he said "she's really sweaty." She wasnt. I was revolted and scared. Anyone who can so anything where semen ends up on an 8 month old's leg as gone off the deep end in the most dangerous way. He hung around us for a long time so i wasnt able to swab, but there wasnt any trauma to the genitals or anus. Thank god. If it smells, feels and looks like semen, it most likely is eventhough i have no proof except for whats in my heart. He left on a business trip the next day and we got the hell out of there. __________________
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TWO WORDS
RESTRAINING ORDER.
two words
PEDOPHILIA IS AGAINST THE FUCKING LAW.
a restraining order is the very least that should be done here.
I just read this
and the responses. I'm a little bit confused about something...if you thought that there was semen on your daughters leg, why didn't you wipe it off and take the cotton swab or towel in to get tested? Semen is semen and it's really easy to test for. Do you still have the cloth you wiped it off with? Maybe I've been immersed in science for too long, but that's the first thing I would have done, so I'm just wondering.
This situation totally sucks. Sending you vibes.
"The Universe Molds Itself To Prove Your Beliefs"
"Fundamentally the markswoman aims at herself" DT Suzuki
what do you mean?
If saying to you that you need to protect your child from her sexually abusive, controlling, and off his meds mentally ill grandfather ia 'attacking' you, then I guess then we're all attackers. Now mama you know that is not right. No one is attacking you.
I also don't understand how anything anyone said can make you feel bad. Really? this man sexually abused your baby. How on earth is telling you to report this making you feel bad? Sophiesworld, it's like you don't quite grasp how heinous a crime this is...let me ask you this, if he had returned Sophie to you with a finger cut off, would you call the police then? or would you say Oh I can't do that because I don't have any proof he cut off her finger. It just seems incredibly unbelievable that a mother would let something like this slide.
and then ok, you won't call the cops, but you are also resistant to the idea of help with a move to a room because you won't have access to your stuff. Are things more important than your very life? Forget about those things! You have a crazy person after you who has sexually assaulted your baby, threatened and controlled you in the past, made you drop out of college, and who you think will rape you or even physically attack you or others if you get the police involved, and you're worried about things?? I have for real been there, and when I finally understood how dire things were I had to leave a whole life of things behind. My daughter and I left with the clothes on our backs and a bag. but so what we're still alive, and I built a happy life for us. I could give a crap about the things I left behind.
Family Footprint | Beyond Battered
She watches over the affairs of her household, and does not eat the bread of idleness.
~Proverbs 31
eco & etsy
Imagination is the living power and prime agent of all human perception.
~Samuel Taylor Coleridge
hey, Mercury
Something that might be helpful right now could be to tell your story--how you got away. I'm down to tell mine. Wanna start a different thread, so we're not derailing this one? Maybe other moms who've escaped abusers would like to share.

All little girls should be told they're pretty--even if they aren't.
--Marilyn Monroe
yah
Such a thread would be helpful, but there's no big story in how I got away. I'll tell it here as well: One day when he was gone to work, I just packed a bag and left. I chose to not be his victim anymore.
Family Footprint | Beyond Battered
She watches over the affairs of her household, and does not eat the bread of idleness.
~Proverbs 31
eco & etsy
Imagination is the living power and prime agent of all human perception.
~Samuel Taylor Coleridge
While I am very grateful
that you were able to successfully and safely leave an abusive relationship in such a manner that is not often the case for many women. Statistically abusvie relationships are never as dangerous as they are at the time a woman leaves or asserts herself in a manner such as a protective order. I understand from sophie's posts this is her concern. From what I read there is no lack of concern for her daughter or her safety; but rather a serious concern of whether a protective order/involving the police would put her daughter and self in greater danger than not. Sophie'sworld, if you are reading this, I want you to know that I believe that you are doing the best that you can for your family. And while I can't tell you what the best decision is I have found that protective orders can be helpful and agree with the other hipmama's when they encourage you to report this incident as soon as you can. FROM WHAT I KNOW of your situation I think it would be the best thing to help your daughter in the future. I will be thinking of all of you and truly hope that you are successful in removing your FIL from your lives. I am sorry that you are dealing with this and none of you deserve it. If there's anything I can do to help you I would gladly do it. Peace, CM
"I have no country. As a woman, I want no country. As a woman my country is the whole world." - Virginia Woolf
"I have no country. As a woman, I want no country. As a woman my country is the whole world." - Virginia Woolf
"If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament." - Rose F. Kennedy
hey sophie
do what you think is right for your family in this the situation.
you have honest intentions and you've helped your family as best as you can. you've never given up. it's easy for people to point the finger and say what they would do in the situation, if it were them. i think that's chicken shit.
what ISN'T chicken shit is having the guts to post about this difficult/complex situation. take what you want, leave what you need to. not all advice is good advice. you know what i'm talking about here.
let the hypocites/know it all's do what they do best. let them continue to fuck up and judge a person who needs help. it must be nice to eat countless bowls of granola to cover up guilt. nevermind this horseshit.
some women here fail to realize that if a mother comes onto this site and fears being judged, she won't post anymore about important topics like this. judgement only isolates a person who is in trouble. it's the worst thing to do when a person is attempting to reach out as best as they can.
how much guilt is enough? if someone already feels helpless or bad, why heap more onto them?
calling someone directly or indirectly a "bad mother" because you don't agree with them, is straight up pussy.
take care,
dc
goddess informant
christy X/christy nc-17 is currently attending film school full time and shooting her first full length documentary/feature in seattle! enjoy it!
this situation is far beyond me
it is too much for me to even understand this situation that you are in sopiesworld, thats why i havent posted anything.ths is a situation that requires your mama instincts more than anything else.
but dragon chic, i really agree with what you have said here.
thank you huck.
hi huck - true compassion is out there in the world.
on a down note:
a handful of these posts were some of the worst reponses i've ever read. this was considered "support" for a regular contributor/poster? give me a fucking break.
why is it that phony radicals take the time to respond negatively and then back down and act like they were supportive all along? how does that help the person struggling?
you know what i think? i have a hard time accepting that there are women out there who CLAIM to have survived abuse, and then they turn around only to judge another woman/mother who is currently trying to survive it. how can this be?
what the hell does that say about sisterhood? how intelligent is it to promote peace, acceptance and tolerance, and not give any when it's desperately needed?
*the sisterhood soapbox bullshit is phony*.
i believe sophie.
does dishing out dr. phil and scientific advice/CSI style really help a person? that shit is meant for T.V.!! not real life.
if someone is already on the bottom rung, why try to kick them down further? sophie trusted the women on this site enough to take the risk, open up and tell her truth.
why act like a little bitch about it? the phony radical compassion routine has done a disservice to this site. thank goddess, it's on it's way out.
i look forward to a time when women who supposedly support other women, actually show it, and just shut up.
there's a time & place for controversy, this situation wasn't it.
take care soph,
dc
goddess informant
christy X/christy nc-17 is currently attending film school full time and shooting her first full length documentary/feature in seattle! enjoy it!
Amen.
That's all I can say here. I've been away and am catching up and cannot believe the crap heaped on Sophiesworld.
Good for you dragon chic and other supportive mamas. And Sophiesworld, my thoughts are with you.
definitely
you called a rape crisis line, you are getting sophie checked out, you are talking to a DA official. you are not doing nothing. i still think reporting is the best course of action for the reasons i already stated but you have to be the one who comes to terms with that and assesses the risks.
judging and coming down on you is pure cowardice. please remember that when you look for support, you can get it, but you will also get noise. like mercury says, this world is full of malevolent people just waiting for their chance to hurt people. HM is no exception. i hope you can look past the noise and understand that sometimes what you post about is too close to our own experience not to priject our own shit onto you. what you are reading here is not about you.
"All persons, whether living or dead, are entirely coincidental." Kurt Vonnegut
"You're on a first name basis with lucidity, my friend. I have to call him Mr Lucidity, and that's no good in a pinch."
come out
I just called a rape crisis
I just called a rape crisis hotline and got a phone number to a woman in the DA's office to pose hypothetical questions about FIL to. She was very helpful and understanding of my trepidations. No offence to the hipmamas, but I know what everyone feels is the obvious course of action. Right now I just need some moral support to get through this extremely difficult time in my life. I dont like being attacked or called out. Thats not helping me at all. I really appriciate all of the input, but I need some vibes. Major ones.

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Good for you!
That was an empowering step you took. Well thought out.
Good for you
this sounds like a good course of action. good luck to you, and major vibes
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i am so glad that you called them
and i hope that you get a really good advocate from the DA.
i am sending you vibes. i just saw this thread and my heart is in my throat for you and your girl. vibes, sophiesworld. you are strong enough to do this.
and I am sending vibes
your little girl is so precious and she deserves, like all children, a real chance in this world. I am sending vibes for you too because once your pain and confusion clears you have a chance at a great life, a happy life. You just have to realize you don't have to be this man's victim anymore.
I understand your fear of going to the police based on what happened to you, but consider that the laws have changed and public perception of sexual assault on children have changed. Same with stalking. Back when I was going through this there were no stalking laws! So please take advantage of the help that is now available to people in your situation. Try not to put your experience on Sophie...the cops didn't help you then, but that doesn't mean they won't help Sophie now. If nothing else take advantage of the stalking laws. Tell him not to call you again. If he does, that's stalking. He doesn't have the right to repeatedly call you. That's stalking. along with all the other crap he has done.
I am vibing you to read over all your posts about this man. I am vibing you to see, to really see how dire this situation is, and how bad it was from the start, and how you seem to stay stuck in crisis mode. I am vibingfor you and SO to choose to break from victimhood and make a life with your daughter free from abuse, craziness, and drama.
You can do it!
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She watches over the affairs of her household, and does not eat the bread of idleness.
~Proverbs 31
eco & etsy
Imagination is the living power and prime agent of all human perception.
~Samuel Taylor Coleridge
that
was very well put.
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Vibes! I was just trying to
Vibes! I was just trying to let you know that I understand the fear that you have surrounding your FIL but that I still think the best course of action is to report him, even if it doesn't seem so right now. You may regret it if you don't. That being said, I wish you luck and safety in whatever you decide to do.
vibes mama
I am sorry you have to go through this HUGS
I am swisterland...switzerland? fuck it, I am swiss.
I don't think you deserve calling out either
I am glad you are looking into it. Protect your family first! The world of abuse is definitely not black and white, report or not. When someone is that bent you need to make sure you and your child are safe first without assuming the system is going to be a Kevlar blanket.
You still need to see if you have enough of a case to accomplish something. You might need to take up the offer to get out of town at some point and take it if you need it!
You have my support!
We could have saved the Earth but we were too damned cheap.~K.V.
thank you very
thank you very much.

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I think that calling the rape crisis line
was a really good move. And talk to more professionals. They deal with this sh*t all the time, and they can help you develop a strategy. A battered women's shelter might be a good place to call, too.

You've definitely identified the problem. I know that when you live with a very manipulative person, it can be hard even to identify problems (although when you look back you'll know--just don't ever beat yourself up). So, you're there. And you're looking for the smartest, safest way to extricate yourself from dealing with this a-hole. You and yours are not in danger at the moment, so that's good.
I think there are abuse survivors on this site (myself included) who are triggered by your situation, and want you just to run the eff away, because we want to run away, or we want to scoop you up and take you away. We each express this in different ways. Please, just be aware that the volume and energy of the responses is an indicator of how much we care.
All little girls should be told they're pretty--even if they aren't.
--Marilyn Monroe
triggered
definitely, it is true that many of us were triggered by this. Myself in particular because Sophiesworld, you are around the same age I was when things started to go bad in my situation. and like you I was scared and confused and unable to see just how bad it was, and I was highly resistant to help.
Since you started posting about your SO's dad, things have gotten progressively worse, haven't they? I think as far back as your second post on him people were telling you to get away from him because things were going to get worse. and they did.
None of us can predict the future nor tell you our experiences will happen to you, it's just that abusers tend to follow a pattern of escalating abuse. It never gets better, it just gets worse. Now that he has ejaculated on or around your baby, his next step is to go further. Now that he has stalke you via phone, his next step is to go further. With abusers it's like watching a horror movie with the standard script. We're telling you to run! because we know the monster is after you.
I do remember how terribly confusing this all is. and now on top of his abuse of you, you have the pain of knowing your child was sexually abused. You and your SO are in a mental fog because of all this, I know, it's so hard to know what to do. and someone telling you what to do seems like just another person trying to control you. I get it, I remember that feeling now.
We just don't want you to get further hurt. That's all. Especially when you have so many resources for help that most of us didn't have. I will try not to project my experience with abuse onto you anymore. I sincerely hope that none of you will be further hurt by this man. I agree that calling the DA was good, and like newleaf said, I suggest calling a women's
shelter for more help and info.
Family Footprint | Beyond Battered
She watches over the affairs of her household, and does not eat the bread of idleness.
~Proverbs 31
eco & etsy
Imagination is the living power and prime agent of all human perception.
~Samuel Taylor Coleridge
you got it
i understand your fear. this guy isn't a garden variety perv, he is dangerous. totally valid. vibes for you.
"All persons, whether living or dead, are entirely coincidental." Kurt Vonnegut
"You're on a first name basis with lucidity, my friend. I have to call him Mr Lucidity, and that's no good in a pinch."
come out
It's not that i'm taking his
It's not that i'm taking his feelings into account at all. Not for his sake anyway, but for mine. How will he react? I dont want anyone hurt by him. He's playing the nice guy but we will never again have a relationship with him. Things we are concidering doing as of today:
-Move to my moms. She had a golden lab malamute and he's BIG and FEROCIOUS if his family shows any fear of anything or anyone. Normally he's just the sweetest, most gentle, loving dog you'd ever want. But if you fuck with his family, he'll attack to kill. I'd feel better knowing that if Siskiyou (the dog) is there, it'll at least buy the cops enough time to get there.
-SO's stepfather offered to pay for us to rent a room somewhere in santa cruz. I dont like this because i couldnt have a lot of my stuff and i wouldnt have access to it. However, FIL wouldnt know where I was.
But yeah. Thanks for all the great words of encouragement. I'll keep a status update going.

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He's already hurt someone
You wrote that you don't want anyone hurt by him, as if what you do or don't do has any impact on his crazy thinking and actions. Consider that he has already hurt someone: YOU. and you wouldn't do anything about it for the longest time, but then it kept getting worse and worse. Your not doing anything about didn't stop him from continuing to hurt you, did it?
Consider he has already hurt someone else: your BABY. You wrote that there was semen on her leg after he was watching her. Which means he either ejaculated directly on her or wiped his semen on her. This is sexual assault. This man sexually abused your baby. You felt concerned enough to check her for physical damage, but please understand that just ejaculating on her or wiping on her is abuse enough.
Nothing you have done so far has stopped him from aggressing on you and your baby. So stop thinking that if you don't tell the police that will stop him, because it won't. You have so many excuses to not take action to protect yourself and Sophie, why you can't change your number, go to the police, or move to safety. You have someone offering to pay for a room for ya'll and you don't want to do it because you won't have your 'things'? Are you kidding me? I know you are serious because all the excuses you wrote are typical of people who feel they are helpless and that they are victims.
You don't have to be a victim, there are so many resources available to you for help. Go to the police and report this assault on your baby.
Family Footprint | Beyond Battered
She watches over the affairs of her household, and does not eat the bread of idleness.
~Proverbs 31
eco & etsy
Imagination is the living power and prime agent of all human perception.
~Samuel Taylor Coleridge
i see what you are saying
you're not considering his feelings, but your own safety with respect to how you feel he may react to being reported. i would be thinking the same things. but i think i would still do it, to be perfectly honest. first of all, with no report, whatever actions he tries to take with you from this point forward won't be part of a pattern as far as the law is concerned. you need documentation of his shit to establish the pattern, which will give you the really strict restraining orders. there are different levels of restraining orders, as you may know. you can forbid him years from now, from going within X feet from sophie's school, her child care center, your side of her family, etc. but you can't do that without establishing his pattern in writing. he may still act out, but the police can take stronger action against him if he does, and actually protect you.
i completely understand your trepidation, i think it comes down to how much confidence you have in the system. what you have on your side is the public furor regarding pedophilia these days. they take that shit so seriously. i hope you decide to go that route, because unless you are willing to completely drop out of your life (a la witness protection, with name changes and everything, no contact with friends or family etc) this is your best bet at protection from him. remember, you can't make a mentally ill person accept treatment for his illness. you can't, that is, unless this person's illness makes them act out in a way that harms people. and in this case it has. it's very possible that he will be placed in a mandatory 30-day hold in psychiatric care, pending the outcome of the criminal case. if he gets treatment, he is less likely to act out against you. so there is that, and the fact that you will only be able to take legal action against him if you report this. if he escalates and starts doing progressively more menacing or weird shit, and you start reporting it then, your credibility can be called into question when you bring up the semen on the baby. i guarantee you if you don't report this now and he escalates (and i totally think he will, whether you report him or not) a judge will look back at you and say "your daughter was molested and you didn't report it?" they may not believe you. and i'm sure your mom's dog is great, but it is no comparison to establishing a paper trail of his dangerous behavior and taking action against him. besides, isn't he crazy enough to just kill the dog?
peace, and i really, really, really think you should report.
"All persons, whether living or dead, are entirely coincidental." Kurt Vonnegut
"You're on a first name basis with lucidity, my friend. I have to call him Mr Lucidity, and that's no good in a pinch."
come out
Totally. The worst thing you
Totally. The worst thing you could do is to not report. What happens if you're successful getting FIL out of your life but he winds up in a relationship with someone who has a daughter? Or what if he has more kids of his own? I had the opportunity to make sure that my dad went to jail for what he did to me, but I got scared and didn't go through with it. I have never regretted anything more.
Repeat: Restraining Order!
Don't give this asshole ANY consideration. If you think he's gonna go crazy and do something to harm your family if you take legal action, what's to stop him from doing it now? Don't take any chances. This is serious.
Report him, and get a
Report him, and get a restraining order. Once you have an order it will be easier for other family members to get one against him, should he start harrassing any of them. I think you can include more than one residence in the restraining order- like he can't be in a certain distance of places you frequent- your house, your mom's house, your workplace (if you have one), etc., even if you don't happen to be there. I could be wrong about that and I think these things vary state to state, but I've been present with someone when they got a restraining order. We walked into the courthouse off the street, said we wanted a restraining order- they sent us to the person in the D.A.'s office who handles that and long story short, in less than 3 hours the temporary order was in place (they do an immediate temporary order until a hearing can be held where the subject of the restraining order has the opportunity to contest it). My point is- go talk to someone in the legal system who can outline your options and tell you just how much protection a restraining order will realistically get you. And even if they don't do anything about the sexual assault for lack of evidence, it will be good to at least have it on record because if he ever does something like this again the authorities will be able to see that there have been previous complaints made against him.
Your FIL sounds like he's using his instability as a way to manipulate you. He knows you're scared of him and is using that to his advantage. But you might be surprised- if you show him that you will not live in fear of him, you might very well find that he's not as threatening as he wants you to believe. Right now he's counting on the fact that you're too scared of him to call the authorities.
We've been toying with the
We've been toying with the idea of calling the cops and filing a restraining order for as long as this has been going on. But we had trepidations. We're scared of retribution. Not just calling the state, but our physical safety and the safety of our families. FIL is a bipolar off of his medications, so he's unpredicatable and eratic. If he gets manic, we're afraid of what he'd do. My experience with cops and child molesters isnt good. i reported a molestation by a preist in my church at the time and all they did was confront him for me because there was no DNA evidence he had done anything. Confronting him on it led to a full out stalking situation.

FIL is very narcissistic. He only cares about how others view him. Giving him a restraining order would be dangerous because it would humiliate him and while he's not seeking revenge now, we're afraid he might.
As for changing our number, he would just find another, possibly more dangerous way to get us messages. We just screen em. He's called 4 times and sent one text today alone.
If he were on his meds, we would make his life a living hell. But he's unstable and we have to be subtle for the time being, i think. i just dont know how to cope.
Her ex was my friend first, and he's taken so much from me already. We both need support from someone who knows him just as well.
Taking this into account, how would you proceed?
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*TOYING* with the fucking idea?
Semen on your daughters leg? SEMEN ON YOUR DD's LEG!
I'm in total shock. Call the damn cop. Fuck this. Fuck him.
I'm going to say something really weird. Are you a real person? Is this just trolling weird shit. Can anyone possible write that their kid had semen on their leg and they are *toying* with the fucking idea of turning him in?
You come on here post after post writing about this man's abuses and now, he finally has crossed the most un-fucking believable line in the world and you're toying with the idea.
If you can't do it, your baby's daddy needs to grow some fucking balls. This thread makes me sick and I'm sorry I even signed on.
I hope this is clear enough and I don't need anyone responding with telling me I don't understand how to give Fuck damn VIBES.
I only hope you are a troll and your just *toying* with my fucking brain this am.
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She's a real person. I think
She's a real person. I think sometimes it's hard to appreciate how scary and difficult it can seem to report someone to the authorities. Logically, of course it seems very black and white. And I agree- she should turn her FIL in, but it's also valid to be afraid for herself and her family if she does so. I'd rather HM be a place for support because making someone feel like crap is just going to make them stop posting.
well...
I call it as i *feel* it and not turning him in turns my stomach.
Sorry, that's the way I roll with pedophiles.
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p.s. I don't think that
p.s. I don't think that strongly urging her to report is attacking her, but accusing her of not being a real person and saying her post makes us sick is.
well
sebsmom, I get what you're saying, but isn't this part of why sexual abuse keeps happening? and abusers not getting the time they deserve? People not being willing to stand up and say this is a sickening thing? This is a horrible and tragic thing to have happened to this baby.
Maybe Sophiesworld needs to see that we take this seriously and know that it's a very bad and sick thing to have occurred. The shame is not on her or her baby, the shame is on this perverted, sick man.
I can understand why someone would think this was a troll because it just seems so unbelievable that anyone would have their baby returned to them with semen on their leg and not do anything about it. I would rather believe this was a trol who just wanted to see how far the hipmamas credulity would stretch, but sadly I know it's possible because when I volunteered at a women's shelter years after leaving my abusive sitch there were women there who never reported the sexual abuse of their children by their partners, from fondling to rubbing their penises on and ejaculating on, to vaginal and anal rape. You don't want to believe a mother would ignore or let something like this slide, but it happens. unfortunately.
Family Footprint | Beyond Battered
She watches over the affairs of her household, and does not eat the bread of idleness.
~Proverbs 31
eco & etsy
Imagination is the living power and prime agent of all human perception.
~Samuel Taylor Coleridge
how is she ignoring it?
or letting it slide? she called a rape crisis hotline. that was a good move. you are all saying that the cops and cps & such are *sooo* much better than they used to be back when you needed them, and that may be true, but they're certainly not super great now. Just a few years ago they failed me horribly, and i totally understand why sophiesworld would be hesitant to get them involved. a piece of paper stating that a person can't go near you does not mean that they just automatically won't.
I don't believe this is an appropriate place to discuss who's to blame for abusers not getting the time they deserve, etc. maybe someone should start a new thread if you want to discuss that. it would be nice to see all of you mamas supporting this woman rather than pointing fingers, I don't know about anyone else but this whole accusing her of being a troll/unreal is kind of freaking me out.
what kind of support do you mean?
I have posted in support of Sophiesworld in this situation, as have most everyone who posted. I have sent her vibes and prayed for her to get out of this situation. What more support should I or anyone else give?
It's not just the fact that neither she nor the baby's father didn't report this to the police when their child was returned to them with semen on her leg that upsets me. it's also the continual excuses why she or he can't or won't make changes to their situation. I can remember reading about this crazy man as far back as March, and it seems like every single month there is a new crisis with the SO's father, each worse than the last time. and every time Sophiesworld drags her heels and makes excuses about why she can't do something about it. stuff as simple as changing her phone # or moving to a secure location (that somebody else is willing to pay for, to boot) or accepting help from hipmamas local to her. I'm supposed to support that? Reading about someone sabotaging their life and seeming like a willing victim? and now their child has been victimized, I'm supposed to support that? hmmmmm.
I tell you what. The time has come that I bow out of these Sophiesworld/FIL crisis threads. The next time, and there will be a next time, I hope her baby hasn't been sexually assaulted again or hurt in any way.
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She watches over the affairs of her household, and does not eat the bread of idleness.
~Proverbs 31
eco & etsy
Imagination is the living power and prime agent of all human perception.
~Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Did it take you less then 5 months
to get out of your abusive relationship? How many people asked if you were making it up?
It is always hard on outsiders because we have no control of the situation. We never will. Making someone feel worse about themselves doesn't help.
Tough love should be used by the people who have the whole story, not an online community who has a small virtual snapshot of a life.
We could have saved the Earth but we were too damned cheap.~K.V.
do any of us really *have* the story here online?
I mean, just as much as I say "fry the motherfucker FIL", I don't have the whole story, I don't know these people, I don't really know anything, but neither do you.
So, it's all hypothetical right? My reaction. Your reaction. Maybe HM is some giant test tube on reactions to volatile situations where no one is *right, and no one is *wrong*.
It's all a mind fuck online.
Wow..and i have NOT been smoking weed.
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yeah right..stoner ;)
I really get where you are coming from. I just don't think getting overly intense will help her right now. Which is only my not very humble opinion.
Peace
We could have saved the Earth but we were too damned cheap.~K.V.
I guess I just
got worked up reading she found cum on her kid's leg and was toying with the idea of turning him in.
I also will never get why everyone here on HM should have the same reaction and advice in order for everyone to be happy?
But, I'm done posting on SW blogs. I feel manipulated and any advice that has been given has never been taken. Fair enough. It's the internet. Why SHOULD I get worked up. Not worth it for me.
Peace
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""I don't know about anyone
""I don't know about anyone else but this whole accusing her of being a troll/unreal is kind of freaking me out."""
I don't know why this would be so shocking of a thought? We do or have had trolls here who *bait* Hip mamas. I've been following SW since the beginning. Her last blog also stated they were *OUT*
http://hipmama.com/node/33696
How did he then have access to her kid? Who knows? I have now been informed that, in fact, SW is real. SO be it.
I think she is crying out for help and I truly hope she and her kid get it. While maybe calling CPS is not always best or feels extreme, sometimes it takes a serious intervention beofre someone is raped or killed. I error on an emergency intervention since there was semen on her baby's leg which, to me, is very serious and fear for her life or fear her (baby) being raped. So, yeah, I'm a hard ass, but I call as i see it and I don't mamsy pamsy around child sexual abuse. I'm not if the *wait and see* mentality and I error or protection the kid first. Like I said, semen on the leg was my RED flag.
If it means dropping out of school to get a job and pay for a safe apartment, then do it. Getting an education is great, but not if it means putting your kid at risk. Don;t even get me started on her partner.
Again, yeah, yeah, I'm a hard ass bitch. Oh well.
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Very true- people don't want
Very true- people don't want to believe it. Sophiesworld... listen to what the mamas are saying because if FIL does something worse where you absolutely NEED a restraining order (I think you're past that point already, but I'm guessing it's just going to get worse) if you speak up at that time about the semen on Sophie's leg the authorities will react in the same way: they will want to believe if that were true that you would have reported him as soon as it happened. No one's attacking you but you really really REALLY should report him!
Sophie Does Not Deserve This
While you and SO are toying with the idea of calling the cops, your child has been sexually abused. Your baby! She is just a baby! Why would you even have to think twice about calling the police???
Listen. Sometimes when people have experienced abuse as a child, be it emotional, physical, sexual, they subconsciously try to repeat the situation as an adult in order to make sense of what happened to them or to try to control what happened to them. Some victims of childhood abuse then becomes predators, some just keep finding themselves being abused. It's no leap to see that you and you SO, both of whom experienced abuse as children, fall in the latter category. That is probably why you both had such a hard time seeing how crazy his father is and how/why you needed to get out of that living situation.
but consider that while you work out your issues, your daughter has already been abused. She does not deserve to go through what you did and she deserves to be protected and defended! Unless you are lying to us to get attention, if you really think that he gunked on her leg or jacked off around or on her then you NEED TO CALL THE POLICE. This is a crime and your daughter needs to be protected. Stop all the bullshit, really. Do what you need to do to protect yourself and your child. Go and file a restraining order. You don't need proof, what he has done before this is enough to qualify for a restraining order.
and you and your SO get some help as soon as possible. You two need mental help, therapy, or you will just keep finding yourselves in similar situations with other people even if you handle this situation with his dad. The world is filled with people who want nothing more than to abuse, use, manipulate, control, and harm others. You can make a choice to no longer be a person who seeks out abuse. You don't have to willingly put yourself in harm's way. You don't deserve to be abused. You can stop the tape playing in your head that says you have to be hurt and abused by someone. and you can make a choice right now to never have this tape put in Sophie's head. Do the right thing and call the police!
Family Footprint | Beyond Battered
She watches over the affairs of her household, and does not eat the bread of idleness.
~Proverbs 31
eco & etsy
Imagination is the living power and prime agent of all human perception.
~Samuel Taylor Coleridge
bravo. well said mercury!
bravo. well said mercury!
"There are times when silence becomes an accomplice to injustice." -Ayaan Hirsi Ali
"Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity."
While I know that your
While I know that your intention was very good in your response, I take offence. It puts my back up to hear that anyone here would think that I would lie to get attention. I'm a reasonably longtime member and poster on HM and i'm completely honest here. My thinking is, how can I get help and support if i'm dishonest about my situations? Having the possibility that my daughter has been abused like that isnt something I could even have the nerve to think out loud if it wasnt in context. My personal experience with the police in matters of sexual abuse in children is poor unless you have DNA evidence/reocurring events/witnesses. All they did when I reported my priest was to make me feel like a liar, and to confront him on it with no intention of an arrest or giving me a restraining order because he wasnt calling or hanging around and I didnt go to that church anymore. All he had to say was that he hadnt done it and they went away. He did start stalking my family after that because he was angry. The police had no sympathy for this little girl.

We're scared. So we removed Sophie from that situation. We are looking out for her safety. What will happen if the police decide to go the same route as they took with me and FIL gets infuriated and does something even worse? A restraining order is just a peice of paper. If he rapes or kills me, it happened and he goes to jail but that doesnt change that it happened.
And BTW, I am in tharapy. SO isnt because he just isnt ready to yet. Personal choice. I encourage and encourage but it's up to him.
It's disgusting the way things work in this world. But i'm not defending him, i'm defending my family and myself from him. I'm not trying to make sense of or control what has happened to me in the past through Sophie. I have had years and years of tharapy both in the past and in my future to do that. I've healed from the sexual abuse from both my preist and my father. Or as healed as one gets from that kind of thing, anyway.
I understand that your intentions are purely good but it really hurt and offended me.
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Having the possibility that
Having the possibility that my daughter has been abused like that isnt something I could even have the nerve to think out loud if it wasnt in context.
hon, it isn't a possibility, it's a reality. Your daughter, your BABY was sexually abused. Just becasue they didn't help you doesn't mean someone won't help her.
You are using some really poor logic here.
Your priest? I thought you'd
Your priest? I thought you'd said you were abused by your father?
Nomatter what happens, this situation sounds horrible, and I really hope that you will report it.