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missamanda
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so as soon as i posted that SO and i had been doing wonderful, shit hit the fan. this only happens when stepdaughter is here, because she and ds DO NOT get along. everytime ds says somthing, asks something, even if its not to her, she argues about ti and tells him he's wrong, and bosses him around. if he's not being left out of dd's and stepdaughters play, they are picking on him or bossing him around. several times this weekend stepdaughter was bossing him around or antagonizing him, he would ask her to leave him alone repeatedly, she wouldn't, and he'd hit her(i witnessed it every time, but didn't step in in hopes that he would walk away on his own). i explained to him over and over that if she is bothering him, to come tell me, that hitting is not ok. ds does not have any other behavioral issues with any other kids, and he goes to preschool/daycare and we have lots of playdates.
all weekend SO was on ds's ass about everything. just riding him. so i would get angry and not say anything. it was very tense. SO believes stepdaughter didn't do anything to provoke it, that ds is just randomly running up and hittingher. because thats what she tells her dad, and even though i state what i witnessed, i'm "lying". on top of that, i heard stepdaughter tell dd that i was "a big bad wolf" and that she(dd) shouldn't like me. i didn't even tell SO because i know he wouldn't believe me.
SO will not go to counseling. SO will not listen to anything about his dd's behavior. if his dd does something naughty, and i try to tell her or discipline her, she tells me she doesn't have to listen to me. she will then tell her dad she said no such thing, that i'm lying. SO belives her.
AAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!! i've spent a lot of one on one time with stepdaughter, and when we're alone we get along swimmingly. shes an amazing girl and i love her. but when my ds or her dad are around, she turns into a monster and then says we're lying about her behavior.

so what now? SO said that my ds is "out of control", and that the only solution is to live in seperate houses. i love him to pieces, but the thought seems like a huge relief.

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i almost drove out the other

weekend but couldn't find your number, then lost the gusto i had to drive. pm me your number again please!

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How old is she?

?

missamanda
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she is 7

and an only child, and(i hate this term but i can't find a better one) spolied rotten. she is only here every other weekend, holidays, and extended periods during the summer.

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so sorry, missA

I was thrilled to read everything was going so well. Damn.
The thought of seperate houses makes me feel relieved for you...do you think that's where you're headed?

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i was thrilled too

we had a few really great months there. it was awesome.
i don't see any other options then me moving out, because he won't go to counseling and he won't talk about it. far too defensive. which, coming from me, is pretty defensive considering how defensive i am.
the only thing is i won't continue to be in a relationship with him if we live apart. i'm not interested in that. if i'm going to be with someone, i want a serious relationship that leads to living togther as a family. if we can't live together now, i don't think we ever will.

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I agree with your thinking

and I know this is something that has bothered you and you have tried and tried to remedy for so long. But when you have one adult in the relationship that choses to believe a child above his SO, who refuses to go to counseling, etc, etc...you can either stay and be miserable or move on.
If you do move on, it'll hurt and suck for awhile of course...but it will also be a much more peaceful home life.
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It does make me sick that he

It does make me sick that he takes her word over yours. Something wrong with that, like he thinks you lie to his face about his daughter just to make her look bad. I am sending you vibes!

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totally

SO told me he doesn't want to discipline her when shes here, since she's not here often he doesn't want her time here to be "sad"(his word for it).
and then i feel like i'm being the evil stepmother. because i despised my stepmom, and i don't want to be that person. then i come back to reality and realize i am just being an adult, not an evil one. for a few months there he was, and things were great, then it stopped suddenly. we didn't fight, the kids all got along, then it came crashing down again.
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i'm no expert

but i'm thinking that his unwillingness to _act like a PARENT_ is going to have way more negative effects on this child than making her "sad" by _acting like a PARENT_ when she's visiting. a total lack of structure or discipline from one parent has just got to fuck with a kid, imho. sorry you're having to deal with this, though, and sorry for her, too, bearing the brunt of his irresponsibility and cowardice.

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Aw, sorry.

I was so wanting this to work for you two. Coming from a blended family, it isn't an easy thing to do especially when SO isn't giving 100%. So sorry and I hope you are able to get some relief from all of this.

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take him up on it

if he accuses you of lying to the point of deterring you from even talking about instances of discipline that need discussing, take him up on it. seems like you all could use some distance. if that's an option for you, do it.
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"so as soon as i posted

that SO and i had been doing wonderful, shit hit the fan."

Um, this happens to me all the time. Like I'm getting punished for being hopeful / cocky.

It's cool you've spent enough time around your stepdaughter you know she can be a good kid.

FWIW, most "evil" stepmothers I've seen get that way because, yup, dad is too lazy or has his own baggage and isn't stepping up.

I have no real advice except to say I hope you figure it out soon... it sounds like you're doing your best.

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I am incredibly sleep

I am incredibly sleep deprioved at the momemnt but my best suggestion is to record her. Get a mini tape recorder or whatever you can ahold of and tape her. Then re-listen to it (it may give you a new perspective) and then face DH with it. He cannot refute evidence like that. And if he does? Perhaps seperate houses are what is needed. In fact it might be what is needed anyway if he refuses to believve you (the adult) and refuses any kind of mediation. Putting his daughter first is a sure way to kill your relationship and it sends her the impression that what she says in a relationship is worthless. Perhaps you can approach DH with this viewpoint. Really, what message is he sending his daughter if he will not believe his own wife?

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If he straight up accuses

If he straight up accuses you of being a liar then he sucks. It's one thing to say he's not going to take sides or he doesn't want to believe either of you would lie, etc., fine. But to just believe her and call you a liar? That's fucked up.

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shitty

i would have a serious problem with someone calling me a liar. At any rate it sounds like dsd has a really difficult time adjusting to being a sibling, since most of the time she is an only child, while your children are always working on a sibling relationship, kwim? If SO refuses counseling, maybe you two and dsd could just sit down and have a loong talk about her feelings, instead of anyone's behavior. Ask her if she feels angry, jealous (don't know if she'll understand the concept), how dd makes her feel, how you make her feel, how ds makes her feel, etc... i know, it's sounds boring and tedious, but it may help you focus on the root of where her behaviour is coming from, instead of just coping and reacting to it all the time. just my 2 cents. i'm so sorry things got shitty, missamanda. hope my mix will cheer you up a little (it's on its way).
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hmmmmm, well the only thing

hmmmmm, well the only thing that pops into my mind, is that this is normal family behaviors, and that it happens alot in families where all siblings are blood related. Rarely do two parents view the children and their dynamics the same, thats why we all have diffrent relashionships with our kids, because of our own perceptons. This easily could have happened in a "traditional" family, dad working alot outside the house, mum in the house, by the time pops gets home all he sees is jr. wailing away on the innocent, sweet daughter, where as mum sees it behind the scenes.So, buck up and try not to take things too personaly, because inevitably there will be these or heavier problems down the road wherever there are children involved. Only in imagined worlds do open commmunications and openmindedness and harmony seem like the prevailing landscape. This too shall pass. It all depends really on how much you guys are commited to eachother more than anything. I am sorry that you and your son are going through this.

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We just had a therapy

We just had a therapy session yesterday in which we talked about blended families and how to make them work, and I spent a good bit of my workday afternoon yesterday reading about the issue. I don't know if you guys are past this point or not, but for what it's worth, here's some of the info/suggestions that I heard from our therapist and in the course of my reading yesterday:
-kids have a hard time accepting stepparents sometimes. The older they are, the harder it can be (until you hit the age of about 16--that's when, according to what I read, it *can* be easier).
-A lot of times when kids act out with stepparent or stepsibling, it's because they are anxious about their relationship with bio parent, or their place in this new family--basically, they aren't feeling the security/love that they need. Make sure bio parent makes it a *point* to spend quality one-on-one time with bio kid when possible.
-The stepparent should not try to discipline the step-kid until they've developed a real bond and comraderie with the kid (sort of along the "friend" or "camp counselor" type of thing). I realize this is easier said than done, but everything I read said that discipline should be left to the bio parent until there is a real love and bond between the stepparent/kid. Stepparent should spend their time trying to form that bond, being a comrad, being "on your team" about things. Stepparent *should* inform partner/bio parent about their kids' behavior, but in an informative tone/sense rather than a tattling sense.
-Take part in fun family activities and traditions to build the bond between everyone in the family, to make the blended family an enjoyable place to be.
-When children aren't around, create with your SO a list of 3-5 house rules (no hitting or kicking, etc.) that apply to *everyone* in the house, without exception. Have a family meeting (preferably in a light, stress-free setting when no one is getting in trouble) and spell out what the family rules are, noting what the consequences for each will be. Stick with these rules and consequences. (**As I was thinking about this suggestion, I thought that a good thing to add to the "rules" would be a fun, positive rule, like "We all hug each other at least once every day. Consequence for someone who doesn't give a hug is tickling!" or something like that, so that it isn't all "no" this or "no" that.)
-Stepparent/bioparent should create a unified front where discipline, consequences, and rules are concerned. Decide what goes on, what doesn't go on, and support each other. Try to apply fairness at all times.
-Try to avoid conflict in front of your kids.

Even though I know that stuff is hard, I thought a lot of those things were good suggestions. i can understand the conflict that you feel as a parent when you feel like your SO's kid is picking on your kid. It makes it hard to want to try to form that bond that would eventually bring love and respect between you. I guess what I try to do is think about it from their perspective--this is a kid whose parents split, who has been through a lot, who is too young to really know how to express their emotions in the right way, and who doesn't necessarily know how to express the anxiety that they feel about their relationship with their bio parent (is this the SO and the other kid going to replace me in my place in dad's heart?), about whether or not stepparent will really love them, about the difficulty of having parents who don't live together. It is a tough thing for a little kid. It's absolutely a tough thing for a mama, too, to try to figure out how to deal with her own feelings about her own kid getting picked on. I understand. But we are the grown-ups, and we have to be the grown-ups, and have compassion for these little kids who have gone through some tough stuff.

I am really sorry that your SO won't go to counseling. Another of the things that I read yesterday was the fact that, when their are kids involved and it's not just two childless people who have all the time in the world to spend together, it takes people a lot longer to get to know one another. It takes a lot more time to solidify your relationship and make it strong. I read in several different places that it takes 4-7 *years* for a blended family to really come together. On the one hand, that sounds like such a long time. On the other hand, for me at least, it was a bit of a comfort--these things that I'm experiencing are normal stressors in a blended family setting, and they *can* be worked out if we are willing to work them out. Know what I mean?

Anyway, I know you guys have been together a while but I think it just really takes a lot of time and effort to make a blended family work. That's what "they" say, anyway. Smile I'm sorry that he suggested not living together. I hope that, if it's what you want, you guys can find a way to work it out. Love to you, mama.

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as a kid with a stepfather,

i can second most of this. particularly that discipline does not work without love. period. so, if you don't have a love relationship, don't even try to discipline because it simply will not work. and you add problems.

but i still feel like if he's accusing you of lying that there are much larger issues here.
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Yeah, I didn't mean for that

Yeah, I didn't mean for that to come off as pointing a finger at you, missamanda, and saying that you should lay off or something like that. Not what I meant at all, just some stuff that I happened to come across yesterday that had been helpful to me and I thought I'd pass it on. I think it's a major problem if you tell your SO something that their kid did or said and they flat-out just say, "You're lying, that can't be true." That's a problem.

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I'm really osrry to hear

I'm really osrry to hear this mama. it seems to me SO really does not have grip on what his daughter is like and how she acts. he has got to get her in control. he is the dad and until he decides to do this I just don't see how it will work. he is the one who has to be willing to listen to what you are saying and it seems he is just blocking any info about her that is negative.I really don't know how'd you get past it when he is unwilling to work on it. I am really sorry mama this sucks.

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