I need to ditch this chick, and I don't know how.

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My friend Aimee introduced me to Jess. Jess is the coolest...was the coolest girl I had met in a long time. She had waist length blonde hair, long legs, pretty smile, wore black cat framed glasses and smoked like a man. Her smile reminded me of Jack Kerouac. She also has a Grateful Dead dancing bear tattoed on her calf, so cool. Shes all into being beaten and tied up and weird shit and I thought 'What the hell, why not?' Plus she would drive me home from work anytime I'd ask even at two or four in the morning ( who in their right minds would do that unless they were just awesome) and she was just so much fun to talk to. Pretty soon, I was hanging out with Jess and not Aimee and all my efforts and hours of shameless flirting were paying of bigtime, and now Jess wants me bad.
So glad I didn't go there.
Right before the shit hit the fan at my homestead with internal organs blowup and anuses infecting and all that fun stuff I ran into Jess. She looked like hell. I of course asked her what was wrong and she started telling me about how her sister had had a nervous breakdown and somehow the police ended up being called. Her sister who is VERY poor and has four diffrent fathers for her four kids who none really want anything to do with their kids let alone pay support had told police they needed to come pick up the kids because she was feeling suicidal and was thinking about just killing herself AND the kids as a way out of this poverty ghetto no hope nightmare. Talk about heartwrenching!
The kids were taken to Jess's parents house where Jess also lives. The sister was taken to a psych ward. Jess was pissed! Jess was pissed that it had been two days, and she had to "deal " with the kids. Jess was pissed that she had to take her money (mind you she has NO bills besides her cell phone and her parents don't care if she lives at home indefinetly) and buy the kids necccessities. She was pissed at her sister and said that her sister "Made her own bed" and "Oh well", and "She keeps calling me like twenty times today checking up on her kids and its really annoying me." " I ain't taking care of these kids!" "She should have thought about this BEFORE she had kids!" And I know what you kind hearted hipmamas are thinking right now. Jess was misplacing her frustration at the situation and her grief for the kids. Oh, Domho quit being so judgemental, maybe theres some family history that you don't know about and her folks may be plumb tuckered out of bailing their daughter out of situations. Maybe her daughter is a drug addict that won't get help, don't be so quick to jump to conclusions. Well I have been doing this Jess thing for about six months and she has talked about her sister in nothing but a light and pleasant manner and Jess doesn't hold back anything on any subject. If anything shes a bit crass and opinionated and sometimes doesn't know when to withhold information. Her life is an open book. And I could see by the look in her eyes she was only feeling sorry for herself.
So, a day later Jess shows up. She is going off now about how put off she is. She won't let me get a word in edgewise. She is sputtering stupid things about how the worker needs to hurry up and get the kids out of the house because the'd be way better off in foster care. Of course I am trying my damndest to talk sense into her, especialy when she mentioned they'd be split up. No, no, the'd be better off, some nice family to take care of them. Jess working part time with no bills at 29 living at home with her folks would be too inconvienced and so would her parents. After all, it was her sister's responsibility, she didn't have to keep popping out babies with all these guys, "She Made her Bed."
Yes, I tried rationalizing with her. I tried telling her that Foster Care blows, that her sister may never get the kids back, they shouldn't be seperated, the state will give you money and food stamps to take care of your neices and nephews if you apply for it, and it would be emergency status. Jess was boasting about how she was telling the kids worker and her sister who was still calling everyhour from the psych ward basicaly to go fuck themselves, she was NOT getting up in the morning and driving the kids a whoping twenty minutes to school, she just wasn't. I was stunned and had to go to work. I was of course thinking about how well if its not up to Jess and her lovely parents to take care of the kids, I guess that left me. Instantly I knew that it wasn't an option. We have a two bedroom. Not that I would care, but being non-family and not even knowing these kids, the state would. My dude has warrants right now, I don't have beds and the state wouldn't just hand over those immediatly and therefore not give me the kids so they'd take them to a house with beds. I am assuming we would both fail drug tests for grass (him)or pills (me from painkillers that I had no prescription for) so there gos that idea, POOF!
So now Jess is happy. The kids are gone. Everything is just ducky and she wants to see me, and she wants to take things to the next level, and now I don't even want to be friends. But she shows up where I work ( I am too busy) and Aimee, is really pushing Jess on me. She even wanst to know why i am avoiding Jess, but I know Aimee and she wouldn't keep it between us. She'd just make Jess promise not to tell me. I will keep running into Jess who is all trying to be all over me hardcore, but now she just is so unattractive to me. I don't even want to ever talk to her again.I know that may to some of you seem much, but hey, I can't help the way that I feel and I feel like somebody that I want in a place like that in my life wouldn't have punked out and was so inconvienced. And Jess has a kid that lives with her FAX, so its not like she doesn't know what its like. I just KNOW if I say why I don't need her in my life it will start shit because nobody likes to be called out on neglecting kids and then people will feel like they are in the middle, ect. ect.
Thanks for listening, mamas
P.S. It really pisses me off too that our mutual friends don't give a damn cus it doesn't effect their lives, and some even focus more on the woman having four men for fathers of her four kids, like she deserves this because thats such an awful thing, an abomination.Grrrrrr.

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be radical

and just tell the truth.
you ick me out now because you are an unkind human being. bye.

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That's what I would do. But

That's what I would do. But I'm a confrontational person.

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doesn't seem like too much to me

i think about something similar to this, if i were to start dating a guy. how he treats his ex and his kids would be a factor for me, even if he's just going to be a plumber. assholia may be an unfortunate condition for jess, but it also makes her pretty unattractive.

i won't tell you what to do, but i will remind you that women tend to just not get the avoidance-hoping-she-gets-the-hint tactic. if it were me, i would tell her that i got to know her through that foster care situation, i didn't like what i learned at all. you're under no obligation to elaborate. and no one else needs an explanation either, so i'd tell aimee that. but only you know what you need to do.
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tell her exactly why

if its how you feel, share it. you SHOULD share it, and not give a shit if it causes upset amongst others. these are kids lives involved here, and if shes a selfish bitch about it, she should know.

"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." - Nietzsche

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See why I come here? I HAVE

See why I come here? I HAVE to tell her the truth don't I? Because by avoiding it cus it makes me uncomfortbale would be kind of like letting her off the hook and I would just be shushing the problem, huh. Acting like its okay somehow. Wow, I was so going to be a pussy and an asshole to avoid being uncomfortable at the expense of the kids in a way. See why I come here, helps me work it out. I guess thats the least I can do for the kids, unfortunatly,fuck her and me too for feeling uncomfortable!

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if its anything like my past experiences

you'll be amazed by how good it feels to call her out on her bullshit, and to stand up for those kids, leading you to be more likely to do call others out in the future. good for you.

"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." - Nietzsche

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and you may be surprised at her reaction

seriously, when i started my practice of telling people the truth in situations like this, i was often surprised at the reaction i got.
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when stuff like this

when stuff like this happens, I get so depressed because not only in Jess a douchebag, but I think Aimee kind of is too for not blinking at all of this and our friend Sam who stood there with a dumb disbelieving grin on his face when I ran into Jess and how he was so smug that she has stairstep children with 4 dudes, seriously that all I swear he focused on, he acted like this mama DESERVED to lose her kids or at least wasn't sympathetic at all. I have known both Sam and Aimee for years and their reactions bothered me and sometimes I really wonder if I know anybody worth being friends with. Its so frustrating. I eventualy get so discusted with people and then I start wondering if its me. No body else thinks Jess is creepy, and I know that they're not hiding it, they just don't care. And sometimes I start questioning myself because I look at everything diffrently than almost everybody else and its such a lonely place. And it seems like men are all the same. Even he hip little artsy vegan ones with the sassy little haircuts that try and pass themselves off as total treehugging liberals, feminist men even a get so instantly turned off when a woman has diffrent fathers for their kids, and I can't figure out why, its almost as if they take it personaly. Like the first thing any man ever asks when they find out I have 4 kids is "Do they all have the same father?" Wow. Like a knee jerk reaction. And alot of people act like the number of fathers dictates the complete quality of the children's life, like a goddamn metaphor. I am rambeling here...

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hey, don't be depressed

be disappointed, be disillusioned with your friends, but don't be depressed. it's their karma. once you take your stand, you're cleaning yours up. and again, you may be heartened by the responses of jess, aimee, sam or whoever else knows about it. just take what you learned about all these people under advisement and know you're not where they are, and be thankful for that. sorry, i don't mean to get preachy about this. but it really is their problem, not yours. and if aimee or sam ask you what's up your ass you can tell them you're disappointed in what you learned about them too. but you don't need to, if they're fun to be around. kwim?

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Before reading other responses

I'm going to say that if you see her in your workplace, you could diplomatically state something like "I need to be upfront with you Jess, I really liked you and enjoyed getting to know you better. But after seeing how put out you were by your sister's kids, and how lacking in compassion you can be, I see that we could not be happy together. I'm sorry I didn't explain it to you earlier. Now, my workplace is very busy, and I'm hoping not to see you again here."

The people who would be stuck in the middle deserve that because they put themselves there.

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it's even worse for me

it's even worse for me because she has a child.I would tell her also and if aimee keeps persisting tell her as well.and you don't have to be rude you can just be like the way you handled that whole situation just doesn't sit well with me.

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I agree - tell her off

That way, the burden of avoiding her isn't on you anymore - it's on her. I am not by nature a confrontational person, but I discovered a few years ago that telling someone the truth when they've pissed me off feels like losing 20 pounds in one minute. Anyway, someone needs to do it for the kids' sake.

I know what you mean about people having issues with the "kids from different fathers" thing. Just a few months ago I was listening to this cokehead loser who abandoned his own child trash his cousin for having "2 kids from different fathers". I told him, what, would it be better for you if she stayed in a crappy relationship and brought more kids into an abusive home? That shut him up good.

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Do the two-sentence tell-off, and be done with it.

Just say the truth, something like:
"Jess, I got dragged into your family situatoin and it was too much for me to watch and now shrug off. I have children myself and really had a hard time with the lack of compassion and care you gave them. I need an indefinite break from you, and I hope you can respect that."

No matter how much there may be a "reason" Jess acted this way or whatever, you don't have to endure being friends with someone whose moral compass is totally fucked. Sometimes we find out a little TOO much about other people in our lives, KWIM?

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Well stated, KH.It is

Well stated, KH.

It is possible that the 4 kids reminded Jess of her absent kid, and it was too much for her to take, so she acted uncaring and cavalier, to cover up her sadness or shame. That does not negate your discomfort, however, Dom Ho.

As far as the 4 kids from different dads, I suspect it's a separate issue; a red herring. It's easy to get people talking smack about a mom in that situation, and to keep them away from the elephant-in-the-middle-of-the-room of why-the-fuck-don't-you-care-about-your-family-members?

You might, at some later date, tell Aimee and Sam that the dissing of the mom w/ 4 kids made you feel uncomfortable, as well. You might cite the very reasons that you have, here. They are all valid.
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"""The kids were taken to

"""The kids were taken to Jess's parents house where Jess also lives.""""

Ummmm.....where are the "grandparents"? I might have missed it? Why did they not step up to the plate? As far as Jess, does not sound like someone you would want in your court if you had some troubles down the line. I'd dump the chump and...it would not be hard.

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Yaknow,

I was thinking the exact same thing. The grandparents are OK with Jess living there indefinitely, but not with their own grandchildren staying there? And they'd rather see them split up & in foster care? That's pretty harsh.

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