friends: so close with the old, and a sea of diapers between new ones

I feel like I'm never going to find a new close friend again. It's hard to move to a new city, new state, new part of America when you're at the end of your pregnancy, and then be bound by baby raising to not get to fully integrate socially into the new environment. I'm a quiet observer, furthermore, so it's hard for me to integrate at all. I was so lucky in college to have made these deep connections with a few women who became my soul-closest friends since my original two best friends of childhood. Women with whom I shared kisses and more, tears, music, nights, drugs, debates, lovers, ideas, emotions. And everything since then has been retreating in levels of closeness. Was it just that age? Do I need to share all that with potential new friends for us to become that close? Well, some of it, beyond mommy playgroup chit chat, for sure. I bet smoking a bowl with a willing mom-acquaintance would do wonders for our closeness.

I did meet a new batch of people, a whole tribe, when I chose to move into downtown Chicago after my suburban college. From an ad posted in a hip cafe of the neighborhood I wanted to live in, I met a girl who seemed cool. The rest was history; she worked with my husband-to-be. A whole bunch of cool people worked at that company and soon we were all having so much fun together, long drinking parties, lots of carrousing and switching of conversations. We loved to have fun together, we even made several competing bowling leagues out of each other and went to Rock N Bowl nights. It was a group thing, with individual personalities blooming into awareness over time, the couples solidifying over time. We were the first to marry, we've been to another wedding since then, one this June, another just got engaged. We had the first baby, then someone had another. From them I learned what it is to be good friends without the visceral sensual all-encompassing quality of my college relationships. I love and care about them now.

And here, a few are starting to tug at my core, I admit. But there's this sea of diapers between us all. There is so much talking about the babies going on, it's like a scrim. Even the sans-baby dinners I've gone to, talk centers around husbands and -ugh- real estate. Is it all because we're still getting to know each other or because I don't have much in common with these ladies. They all seem so much older than me, for one thing. I mean, technically they are, but they are the same age as my Chicago friends. Here they dress in khaki slacks and nondescript shirts, whereas in Chi they have tattoos and dress like young hipsters or at least with a sense of being put together. I'm not expressing that well, and I know, I know, fuck judging people by what they wear. That is something I have to work on. Not everyone wears their personality literally on their sleeves, or expresses anything having to do with who they are through their clothes. Some do, and some do it in other ways. Part of my shallowness is finding more affinity instantly with someone wearing cute corduroys rather than fitted banana republic slacks. But I digress.

I started out this post with tears in my eyes, but writing about my chicago & college friendships cheered me up. It did take years to cultivate each of those friendships. And I have only lived here for a year and a half. I just want to connect with someone. Feel that spark of friendship, and share some of my necessary interests with them. People with whom I can find solace and talk unguardedly and burp around. Who share at least a few key elements of child-rearing philosophy, and life philosophy. I'm almost ready to put an ad in the paper. But I know that only time and serendipity will lead those friends to me. I just need to keep putting myself out there and not stay home. And have the courage to go talk to someone if they give me that soft feeling of potential.

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It does get better, especially since you are aware of what you have to do. Here's to your finding close friends soon! Smile

oh yeah I wanted to say have you tried hosting a potluck at your place? Like just ask your neighbors and/or mamas you see at the library, grocery store, etc.

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well I've hosted playgroup

well I've hosted playgroup here, but that's not the same thing. You know, I'd forgotten but you just reminded me: I have had this dream of hosting a "friends of friends" party, because there are at least a couple people, both mamas actually, that live here who are separated from me by 2 degrees. I emailed them each once and there was friendliness but never a meeting. I think when it gets warm I might just take the plunge and invite them over for a backyard barbecue & hot tub party. There were two others, but one sadly moved away, and the other I just didn't really click with when I met her. I could mix up the crowd with some playgroup mama friends. And when I do have it planned, if I see cool mamas "in the wild" of libraries, stores, etc., I could throw an invitation out that way. mmmm, my gears are turning Smile I just told dh and he was smiley ok with the idea too.
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I think the reality is that

I think the reality is that there is a distinct posssibility that one could fail to make the type of close, meaningful friendships that it seemed so easy to make during our pre-kid years. We just didn't have the restraints of kids and family life and all those responsabilitities that come with them. I thik that it can really take work and time to find those close friends. This has been my hardest change since having my first kid six years ago. A mama just posted above about her dissatisfaction with her momma group. Not to discount at all her feelings, but we read so many of those posts because it's such a common phenomenon. Suddenly we have someting in common with all these people who we may never have crossed paths with in a million years before. And harder yet, suddenly the majority of friends from the past have very little in common with you. It's amazing how cute kids can repel old friends.
I think it really comes down to making an effort to meet new people and it still can take a really long time. I finally have a small circle of friends and to be honest there's only a few I'd go have a beer with and, since you mentioned it, only one that I'd toke with. And that's quite a change from the old group of friends. I currently have a craft-group date with some mamas of my older dd's friends and I'm not even that crafty. Hope I didn't sound too dark about this. It is a hard one.

Patience patience and time.

I know what you mean. Dh and I were marveling at a couple of our old friends, when we visited chicago with the baby. These were sort of tough, cynical guys, and they didn't so much as look at the baby. I mean, no reaching out to touch or comment or anything. It's like, they were the most entertaining wise cracking people, but put a baby in front of them and they're mute and standoffish. It kind of shocked us. Like what are you too cool for babies now, the ultimate in life's innocence, that thing you've spent your life squelching?
But, yeah, it definitely takes more work now to cultivate the friendships. And results are also so delayed, cuz the others are busy with their kids and lives too. Patience patience and time.
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This is tugging at my

This is tugging at my heartstrings, and all I have to say is - not all the world is Chicago. I'm biased - I look at all of my adult friendships as either measuring up to or failing what I had my whole life long in Chicago. I know that friendships are more than a PLACE, but still, it tugs.

Common ground is a tough thing to find. That said, I have found some incredibly long lasting relationships since I've moved here - but not what I was expecting. My biggest one is with my former fiances mother, who is now 84 years old. That is really outside the box, but I've learned more from and respect this woman more than anyone else I've encountered, ever. The other is a transplant like me, 10 years younger, with a vastly different parenting style. You just never know.

I'm starting to learn that you get things from people no matter who they are, and that the ones we may not consider a good friend "prospect" are actually the ones that will be with our hearts forever.

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"not all the world is

"not all the world is Chicago" yeah that's definitely a part of it. chicago was a huge metropolis, full of many many people, and Austin is maybe 1/10th that size. Not only am I still putting down roots here, which is tied to associating this place with specific local people, but it's a smaller sea of fish from which to find friends. But yeah, I should stop holding Chi up on a pedestal and open my mind more to people.
That is a good point you make about finding friendship in unexpected people. My best friend told me the same thing, finding her closest friend was a 56 yr. old neighbor with grown-up kids. I like that. I'm open to that. I'm trying to keep my heart open to kindred souls (despite my corduroys comment.) I do believe now, that once you become an adult, we're all the same age inside in a way, it's just our shells that keep getting older. So that friendship is with the soft ageless cores.
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