a big TMI question about Egg White CM, semen allergy, vaginismus?

Lapis's picture
Sat, 01/30/2010 - 06:54 -- Lapis

its leading up to O time (and as many of you know, I'm on month 17 or so of TTC)...and so I'm thinking about EWCM. and I'm thinking about it because I rarely, if ever, have any. some months I get a little string of it (always so exciting when it happens) most months I get nada. nothing. 0. ziltch. sometimes nothing comes out but I feel a tiny bit itchy/slippery around O time. but mostly nothing.

I've tried it all: maca, red raspberry/nettle/red clover combo (regularly drank the tea for five or so years.... no longer do), carrots, grapefruit juice, WATER WATER WATER. I'm not on medication. I take B vits and cod liver oil (have been for years). My ND had me on fertility herbs and a personalized hormone cream (both of which I've now weaned off of). nothing has made a marked difference.

and maybe I should add, that I've never been someone with a heavy amount of ANY kind of CM/lubrication during the month/sex. (just to add, things have been more so in the last couple years, enough so we don't have to use lubrication while ttc but its still not quite enough kwim)

and here is the second part of this question: along with little cervical mucus/vaginal lubrication, sometimes I wonder (and have for many years) if I have a semen allergy (and maybe not chronic yeast infections?!?). I have had bouts of terrible swelling and stinging during and/or after sex. the last couple years (off of gluten, good partner) things have improved but I still have the once or so a month, puffed-pootie!... sometimes more... sometimes less. I have also struggled with mild to moderate vaginismus (anxiety about, pain associated with sex). It is not ALL the time but enough to warrant figuring out what exactly is going on, mostly whether it is an emotional issue or an allergic reaction... its the chicken and the egg question, I'm not sure what came first. I don't know what kind of "tests" can be done to figure out what exactly is going on but thought you smart ladies might have some good info or experience with these issues. thoughts? ideas? commiserations? an MD is in my near future so if you think of anything you've tried/heard or know about that I might want to mention at my next appointment would be very much appreciated.

thanks again ladies,
: )
Lapis

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Submitted by punkmama on

i was taken to the emergency room as a 15 year old, after giving my first ever blow job, (i won't come in your mouth, i promise!) with violent vomiting and my throat swelled up, burning, itching, etc, and the ER doc said it was an allergic reaction to "human sperm"...he seriously said "human", like i was good to go if i wanted to blow a goat in the future.
i digress.
i didn't give anybody head for a couple of years, then tried with a very serious boyfriend and it was fine. leading me to think that i was either a) allergic to something that he ate? or b) allergic to my head being jammed down at the big moment and teenage skaterboy sperm being projectile-shot down my throat.

was that helpful? i hope at least it gave you a laugh!

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Punkmama--you goat fluffer.
Oh, no, wait, that's me. I'm the Goat Fluffer.

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I've had a chronic yeast infection for years and have spent the last few months not eating sugar or wheat or having booze (or sex, for that matter, but not as a treatment, per se), and drinking diluted apple cider vinegar in an effort to rid my body of it. I am certain that I got this condition from my ex, years ago. I would always get itchy and yeasty after sex with him, then I would do the monistat thing, then get another yeast infection after having sex with him. Clearly, he had a systemic yeast infection and I kept getting it from him.
Anyway, maybe you and your partner could treat for a systemic yeast infection...

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Submitted by punkmama on

not trying to jack your turf, mama. i am more into skinny asian boys anyway, if i was gonna be a pro fluffer. :D

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or would you consider yourself to be very thin or very skinny? I have no data to support this, just anecdotal but for what it's worth, 2 friends of mine who have had this problem (being dry, little mucous during ovulation, etc.) gained weight (one 15 pounds, one 20) at the suggestion of their docs and bingo! normal juicy cooch and both pregnant within a year.

On the allergy stuff, sounds like to me your man is the one with a chronic infection and you keep getting it from him. has he been checked out?

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Submitted by Lapis on

but this totally made me laugh : )
I've heard of people with celiacs having this issue with their partners semen.
put things at least in some sort of perspective for me, at least im not in the ER

thanks punkmama

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Submitted by Lapis on

For YEARS I struggled with yeast infections... all started with birth control pills, which gave me one, and then a bladder infection and THEN antibiotics and then...well... it went downhill from there. Wow, and that was ten years ago. Since then I've learned a lot and figured out a lot...

but after years of elimination diets, and vinegar baths and oregano oil and boric acid suppositories (best thing EVER!) and NEVER (totally allergic) drugstore yeast infection creams. I finally found an md who tested me for allergies (which also tested for candida, other "bad" bacteria overgrowth, parasites etc) and found that I'm gluten intolerant (not celiacs thank goodness) and casein sensitive... and she found low (much lower than we anticipated for the frequency of yeast) but not systemic candida overgrowth. we did a few rounds of SUPER high probiotic treatments plus no gluten/dairy and thing really improved in the yeast department. this was two years/year and half ago. I've also heard that there are a few different strains of candida, some of which are just harder to get under control but which also has to do with certain people/genetics.

BUT I think from all those years of infections (which after about a year I learned how to NEVER let them get quite so out of control as in the beginning) I've either developed an emotion reaction that has turned into a physical one... or something like that.

I do think you are right though, especially in the beginning (and probably with subsequent partners too) that I would get a yeast infection, they would get it too and then we'd pass it back and forth.

My DH is good about taking a few vinegar baths if I've gotten a yeast infection.... but in terms of a more systemic thing going on for him, he hasn't gotten check out/does't think its an issue. I think it might be time.

I feel like I already have SOOO much information and yet still, things are so confusing sometimes.

thanks for your insights though. Its good to be reminded of some of the thing I already know and also... to get DH checked out.

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Submitted by Lapis on

I am thin 120/125 lbs at 5'7''.
i'm not someone who people say "oh my, she is sooo thin!" but I DO have a very hard time gaining weight. I've only once made it to 130 lbs... it was hard work and a lot of thai food. but it was also before I found out I couldn't really eat gluten... so my belly didn't feel great while doing it. I mean, it really did feel good to be a bit heavier but I'm not really sure how to do it now that gluten is out.

I have a pretty full fat , full meal (and lots of veggies too) kind of diet.... again, no gluten, and dairy was out for the last year, but back in after moving to austria. any suggestions on how to gain even just 10 lbs?

I've also been told I should get my thyroid checked.
and I think shade shaman and you are probably right that my man should get check out for yeast.

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Submitted by punkmama on

but for many years since, i laugh at it myself.
in all seriousness, though, i just started seeing a pricey MD who specializes in fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue, both of which i have been diagnosed with and struggled with for years. he has his patients fill out a 23 page long form about their history, and based on some of mine, he has started me on a prescription of nystatin because he thinks i have a moderate yeast overgrowth. he reminded me that nystatin is safe enough to give to babies. i am starting it tomorrow. my friend who referred me to the specialist was on nystatin for four months (!) for a severe yeast overgrowth. she is a little thing to start with, and lost a pant size just from getting the yeast in her gut back to normal. wow! maybe see if your doc will talk to you about it?

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I know exactly how to gain weight...my issue is keeping it off LOL!

135 is optimal weight for a woman of your height (you go first 5feet 100 pounds then 5 pounds per inch after) so if you gain 10-15 pounds that will get you at what's considered the best/healthiest weight.

ok so how to gain weight! Nuts, nuts, nuts. walnuts especially are good fatty and all nuts are high in protein. If you add a couple of handfuls of nuts every day to your current diet that ought to put on a few extra pounds. Soy 'milk'shakes are good weight boosters, or you can try real milkshakes if your body can handle the dairy. Add a few more fried foods to your diet i.e french fries. It doesn't take much oil to put weight on you, just a few servings of french fries every week will add on some extra pounds over time. Last but not least, hit the gym or get some weights. Weight training will increase your muscle, muscle weighs more than fat plus gets you stronger.

p.s my friends who were very thin before gaining weight and having babies, after they had their kids their food issues basically disappeared. We like to joke that nature rewarded them for having kids by taking away the food allergies LOL.

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